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  • #676
    Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

    Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
    Do you see this team getting by the AL East champion?
    I hint at that and I'm scolded!
    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo Swoon is in season.
    Originally posted by Husky Fan Roy If this turns out to be correct: Big Pieps > Kevin Allenspach

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    • #677
      Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

      Originally posted by BigPieps View Post
      Don't worry!

      WE WON THE SERIES
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      • #678
        Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

        Craig Dahl, after winning the Friday game against UND, "I'm hoping for a split."

        Handyman, after the Twins take the first two, "I'm hoping the for a series win."
        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo Swoon is in season.
        Originally posted by Husky Fan Roy If this turns out to be correct: Big Pieps > Kevin Allenspach

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        • #679
          Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

          BTW, I bet an employee a soda on the series. I won. It would have been TWO had they swept.
          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo Swoon is in season.
          Originally posted by Husky Fan Roy If this turns out to be correct: Big Pieps > Kevin Allenspach

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          • #680
            Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            espn.com

            http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/...avg/order/true
            That's batting average (of which they are 4th in the AL) and not average with RISP. AVE with RISP is not kept, however the Twins despite being 2nd in TPA are 5th in R while both NY and TB get more usage out of their TPA than MN (1st in R but only 4th in TPA while TB is 3rd in R but only 6th in TPA). In addition MN is 5th in the AL in OPS, 5th in TB and 8th in HR.

            I am not sure why pointing such staticstics out gets some people in such a frenzy. I am not saying the season is over, but some of us believe that they need to improve if they plan to advance past the best teams in the AL, despite the fact that on occasion teams rise past such statistics in the post-season. Is it really that bizarre to be unsatisfied with their RISP and bring it up? The OMG YOUER DUM! reactions are far more off the mark than being concerned that this could bite them in the arse in the post-season.

            I still hold out that the law of averages will work this out by the end of the season, but it's unquestionably reasonable to talk about it.
            Last edited by Slap Shot; 05-23-2010, 05:14 PM.

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            • #681
              Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
              That's batting average (of which they are 4th in the AL) and not average with RISP. AVE with RISP is not kept, however the Twins despite being 2nd in TPA are 5th in R while both NY and TB get more usage out of their TPA than MN (1st in R but only 4th in TPA while TB is 3rd in R but only 6th in TPA). In addition MN is 5th in the AL in OPS, 5th in TB and 8th in HR.

              I am not sure why pointing such staticstics out gets some people in such a frenzy. I am not saying the season is over, but some of us believe that they need to improve if they plan to advance past the best teams in the AL, despite the fact that on occasion teams rise past such statistics in the post-season. Is it really that unreasonable to be unsatisfied with their RISP and bring it up? The OMG YOUER DUM! reactions are far more off the mark than being concerned that this could bite them in the arse in the post-season.

              I still hold out that the law of averages will work this out by the end of the season, but it's unquestionably reasonable to talk about it.
              And many of us are saying that just because we beat the Brewers "only by a run in extra innings" doesn't mean that the NYY will beat us in the playoffs.

              Yes, there are concerns, but let's not write them off quite yet. I'm with ya on the "it'll work itself out" thoughts.
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              • #682
                Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                That's batting average (of which they are 4th in the AL) and not average with RISP. AVE with RISP is not kept, however the Twins despite being 2nd in TPA are 5th in R while both NY and TB get more usage out of their TPA than MN (1st in R but only 4th in TPA while TB is 3rd in R but only 6th in TPA). In addition MN is 5th in the AL in OPS, 5th in TB and 8th in HR.

                I am not sure why pointing such staticstics out gets some people in such a frenzy. I am not saying the season is over, but some of us believe that they need to improve if they plan to advance past the best teams in the AL, despite the fact that on occasion teams rise past such statistics in the post-season. Is it really that bizarre to be unsatisfied with their RISP and bring it up? The OMG YOUER DUM! reactions are far more off the mark than being concerned that this could bite them in the arse in the post-season.

                I still hold out that the law of averages will work this out by the end of the season, but it's unquestionably reasonable to talk about it.

                Huh? What are you talking about? That's what a split is. It takes a situation, and calculates the teams respective stats in that situation. That is their AVG w/ RISP.
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                • #683
                  Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                  Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                  And many of us are saying that just because we beat the Brewers "only by a run in extra innings" doesn't mean that the NYY will beat us in the playoffs. .
                  Let's not obfuscate the points here. I think their record against NYY and TOR speaks for itself, and that what NYY and TB do with their TPA as compared to the Twins is presently a cause for concern.

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                  • #684
                    Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                    Huh? What are you talking about? That's what a split is. It takes a situation, and calculates the teams respective stats in that situation. That is their AVG w/ RISP.
                    I know what a split is, but that is total batting AVE, not AWRISP. That stat IS NOT KEPT.
                    Last edited by Slap Shot; 05-23-2010, 05:23 PM.

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                    • #685
                      Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                      Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                      I know what a split is, but that is total batting AVE, not AWRISP. That stat IS NOT KEPT. Dear Parise.
                      It sure as hell is. Pick the split with bases loaded. It drops down to .177.

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                      • #686
                        Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        I still hold out that the law of averages will work this out by the end of the season, but it's unquestionably reasonable to talk about it.
                        If the guys coming up to hit w/ RISP are the team's worst hitters, that would explain a lot about the inability to produce. In today's game, Harris was 0-4 and Kubel was 1-5. Many of those at-bats occurred with guys on base, and both of them are hitting around .200 (in fairness to Harris, he hasn't had regular playing time this season; Kubel has no excuse as the regular DH).

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                        • #687
                          Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          It sure as hell is. Pick the split with bases loaded. It drops down to .177.

                          OMFG!! IT CHANGED!
                          I didn't notice the tab at the top - either way they are behind both the TB and NYY which is my point all along. Not that the season is over, but they have work to do if they are to be expected to compete in the playoffs.

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                          • #688
                            Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                            Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                            I didn't notice the tab at the top - either way they are behind both the TB and NYY which is my point all along. Not that the season is over, but they have work to do if they are to be expected to compete in the playoffs.
                            They're behind NYY by .002. They're behind the best team in baseball by .021. This is absurd. Look, it warrants discussion I agree. But let's not blow it out of proportion.
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                            • #689
                              Re: Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              They're behind NYY by .002. They're behind the best team in baseball by .021. This is absurd. Look, it warrants discussion I agree. But let's not blow it out of proportion.
                              I bet that table thingy doesn't take the GRIT factor into account.
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                              • #690
                                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                They're behind NYY by .002. They're behind the best team in baseball by .021. This is absurd.
                                And both those teams do better with R from TPA while the TWINS drop in rank in R as compared to TPA. The fact is those teams do more with less than MIN and there's nothing absurd about it.

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