Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

[Red Cloud]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

If you're under the age of 35 and expect to see one red cent from Social Security at any age unless you're disabled (now), I would like you to contact me immediately to take part in an exciting business opportunity from Nigeria that will net both of us millions.

Or if you're Priceless, I have an amazing weight loss plan devised by a mom in your hometown.

[Rover]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

If you're under the age of 35 and expect to see one red cent from Social Security at any age unless you're disabled (now), I would like you to contact me immediately to take part in an exciting business opportunity from Nigeria that will net both of us millions.

Or if you're Priceless, I have an amazing weight loss plan devised by a mom in your hometown.

Well of course Red Cloud, because in your world 30 years hence Barack Obama will just be finishing up his 8th term in office having usurped the Constitution long ago. We'll all be worshiping some weird sort of pagan God at the gubmint's behest while cannibalism is all the rage amongst the serfs who weren't smart enough to join ACORN when they had the chance.

Is that about right?

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

Means testing is the way to go, or just reduce the promised benefits. Every year we all get the mailing, and its said they can only pay out 75% of the total at retirement as things stand now. Great, just make the 75% the new promise at retirement and lets call it a day. I'm not retiring for another 30 years, so really its not going to affect my life or retirement strategy any.

So I'll say again, despite the pleas of whiny knuckledraggers, Social Security is the least problematic of the country's budget problems. A few relatively painless tweaks and you will have weathered the demographic oddity of one generation making up such a large % of the country's population, and then the program becomes even more stable.

I think if I were one of the "rich" folks I'd like to just keep paying only on a hundred thousand and just not getting my benefits unless I need them (insurance) later in life. That seems to be the way to go to me.

[MinnFan]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

A problem easily solved by 1) means testing the benefits, and 2) more favorable demographics as the huge baby boomer population starts exiting the scene.

So you're advocating more welfare. I love how people can rationalize stealing as long as you get a member of congress to do it.

Keep in mind, the more you punish success the less you will get of it.

[Rover]

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So you're advocating more welfare. I love how people can rationalize stealing as long as you get a member of congress to do it.

Keep in mind, the more you punish success the less you will get of it.

Are you responding to a voice in your head or to me? I'm a little confused as my post had nothing to do with more welfare. If anything, I'm calling for scaling back benefits. If the system can only pay 75% of current levels to people like myself 30+ years from now, my idea is simple. Reset it so that the 75% level is the new payout. Not sure what your issue is with that....

[MinnFan]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

Are you responding to a voice in your head or to me? I'm a little confused as my post had nothing to do with more welfare. If anything, I'm calling for scaling back benefits. If the system can only pay 75% of current levels to people like myself 30+ years from now, my idea is simple. Reset it so that the 75% level is the new payout. Not sure what your issue is with that....

That, I have no issues with. When you "means test" SS (as was in your first post) it becomes welfare.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

That, I have no issues with. When you "means test" SS (as was in your first post) it becomes welfare.

No, it's an insurance policy. I don't get money back from my insurance company if I don't need it and this is the same thing. It's insurance so you can have some money no matter if you go bankrupt or not if you worked in the United States and paid into the system.

It's not welfare.

[Rover]

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So, Knucks' , remember when you all said the US was going to take a bath on the auto bailout and we should have lost those hundreds of thousands of jobs because they'd all go out of business?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36133013

Thoughts? Comments? Confessions?

[Clifton]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

The following is not a joke. This is from an actual Congressional hearing, and the person asking the questions is a member of Congress. Just start watching and make sure that you're listening closely at about the 1:25 mark.

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[neshl05]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

The following is not a joke. This is from an actual Congressional hearing, and the person asking the questions is a member of Congress. Just start watching and make sure that you're listening closely at about the 1:25 mark.

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That can't be real

[Foxton]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

That can't be real

Well there isn't an IQ test to be a representative. Forgot which one of them said that.

[geezer]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

That can't be real

This is Hank Johnson. The same guy that said Conservatives all want to join the Klan and terrorize the countryside on horseback (or something) because they voted for McCain.
Now his handlers are trying to get him to say he was making an April Fools joke, and he's refusing to back down from the imminent capsizing of Guam.

[walrus]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

So, Knucks' , remember when you all said the US was going to take a bath on the auto bailout and we should have lost those hundreds of thousands of jobs because they'd all go out of business?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36133013

Thoughts? Comments? Confessions?

Its great they moved units, Did they make any money doing it?

[neshl05]

Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

This is Hank Johnson. The same guy that said Conservatives all want to join the Klan and terrorize the countryside on horseback (or something) because they voted for McCain.
Now his handlers are trying to get him to say he was making an April Fools joke, and he's refusing to back down from the imminent capsizing of Guam.

Ok, I never heard of old Hank, so that clears things up.

[MinnFan]

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No, it's an insurance policy. I don't get money back from my insurance company if I don't need it and this is the same thing. It's insurance so you can have some money no matter if you go bankrupt or not if you worked in the United States and paid into the system.

It's not welfare.

But the insurance in this case is for living past a certain age regardless of wealth. It was sold as you paying a down payment for a future benefit. Not paying for someone else's benefit.

If it is truly insurance against not having enough money then people should (and would) be able to opt out and take the risk on their own.