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  • #46
    TIL, the commies discovered azithromycin.
    Cornell University
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    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
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    • #47
      God bless regulation, government overreach, and the Mommy State:

      Cornell University
      National Champion 1967, 1970
      ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
      Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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      • #48
        It's just a correlation.
        If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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        • #49
          I am not saying that not smoking doesn't lead to fewer deaths (I'm honestly not sure if I could sneak in any more negatives there, if you can find a way I'd be happy to edit!), but treatment for lung cancer has come along immeasurably over the past 25 years.
          I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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          • #50
            I’m not sure that not smoking doesn’t lead to more non-recoveries….
            If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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            • #51
              I think I've gone and confused myself on this.



              suffice it to say, cancer treatment way more gooder than it used to be, which contributes a great deal to survivorship.
              I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Swansong View Post
                I am not saying that not smoking doesn't lead to fewer deaths (I'm honestly not sure if I could sneak in any more negatives there, if you can find a way I'd be happy to edit!), but treatment for lung cancer has come along immeasurably over the past 25 years.
                This is so true. I, unfortunately, know two people who got lung cancer (ironically, none of them smoked) in the last few years. One of them *three* times. And they are all still alive today. In the past, anyone I knew who got lung cancer never survived.

                Sure, anecdotal, but still...
                Russell Jaslow
                [Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
                U.S. College Hockey Online

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

                  This is so true. I, unfortunately, know two people who got lung cancer (ironically, none of them smoked) in the last few years. One of them *three* times. And they are all still alive today. In the past, anyone I knew who got lung cancer never survived.

                  Sure, anecdotal, but still...
                  I have the same anecdotes. Anecdotes are not data and all and whatnot, but I too knew a few people who died of lung cancer in the 80's and 90's, and they died within a year of initial symptoms. Fast forward to now and I know another person who's had it come and go for over a decade now. None of the people smoked.


                  Early detection plus improved treatment = better outcomes.



                  Also, not smoking.
                  I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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                  • #54
                    There's also two other things that have helped

                    we stopped using asbestos in... everything
                    we've become significantly more aware of radon and how to mitigate it
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                    College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                    BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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