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  • #346
    Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

    Yeah you see the "Illegal hit by big guy on small guy" by some of the WCHA refs...it is a lame penalty although it is better than the current no penalty status which tells you how bad having no penalty is.

    Matt Cooke is an example of why the NHL is considered a bush league sport by most casual fans. But hey ESPN was talking about hockey so I am sure Bettmen is wetting himself even though they are ripping how crappy the NHL is compared to the Olympics.

    I think the best idea was forcing the team to play with one less player on the roster for the length of the suspension...and I say that as a Wild fan. Maybe the team would finally stop playing Boogaard then
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    • #347
      Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

      The Cooke hit was the first NHL highlight on ESPN. Before the Chicago-Detroit highlights.

      A couple hits like that and you can kiss any "bump" from the Olympics goodbye.

      This should have been dealt with when the Bertuzzi-Moore incident was on tv for two weeks straight. I don't know why they think they can get any kind of TV contract when it's plainly obvious that no one in the NHL understands how the American media works.
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      • #348
        Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
        Maybe the team would finally stop playing Boogaard then
        Stop playing him and see how much space the rest of the team gets on the ice. I'm not saying that Boogaard is anything but a pylon- he has no offensive, defensive or skating abilities- but the man's presence in the lineup makes a difference.

        His suspension was sort of BS. I think that knee on knee was pretty incidental. When I saw the replay, it seemed pretty clear that Boogaard was going for an open ice hit, then caught Jones' knee when he tried to avoid Boogaard. Incidental or no, it's definately worth the minor he got, but if anyone else on the Wild roster does that, there's no suspension.
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        • #349
          Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

          I just got the thread title. I'm a moron. But, anyway, very nice.
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          • #350
            Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

            Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
            Stop playing him and see how much space the rest of the team gets on the ice. I'm not saying that Boogaard is anything but a pylon- he has no offensive, defensive or skating abilities- but the man's presence in the lineup makes a difference.

            His suspension was sort of BS. I think that knee on knee was pretty incidental. When I saw the replay, it seemed pretty clear that Boogaard was going for an open ice hit, then caught Jones' knee when he tried to avoid Boogaard. Incidental or no, it's definately worth the minor he got, but if anyone else on the Wild roster does that, there's no suspension.
            Knee-on-knee hit by a previous offender and the player he hit is out for a couple weeks with an injury because of the hit. It looked like Boogaard wanted to hit him with a hip check, but instead stuck his leg out. It's bad, it looks worse, and the guy is out for a while because of it.
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            • #351
              Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

              Originally posted by GreatLakerMohawk View Post
              Knee-on-knee hit by a previous offender and the player he hit is out for a couple weeks with an injury because of the hit. It looked like Boogaard wanted to hit him with a hip check, but instead stuck his leg out. It's bad, it looks worse, and the guy is out for a while because of it.
              Previous offender? I know there was the one he had with Kent Huskins, but that was a very similar sort of situation- where Huskins sort of sidestepped into Boogaard's knee while Boogaard was bracing himself to deliver a check.

              I won't argue that it's bad, nor will I deny the suckiness of Jones' injury. I'm just saying that it was incidental (therefore the suspension is kind of iffy).

              I'm always a little hesitant to think about suspensions in terms of how long the injury is. Ideally, a suspension's existence/length has to do with the severity of the offense, not the consequences.
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              • #352
                Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
                Previous offender?
                From Russo's blog.

                Enforcer Derek Boogaard has been suspended the next two games for his knee-on-knee hit on Edmonton's Ryan Jones last night. Boogaard, who was suspended for five games last February for elbowing Brandon Prust, is now considered a repeat offender.
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                • #353
                  Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                  Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
                  Stop playing him and see how much space the rest of the team gets on the ice. I'm not saying that Boogaard is anything but a pylon- he has no offensive, defensive or skating abilities- but the man's presence in the lineup makes a difference.

                  His suspension was sort of BS. I think that knee on knee was pretty incidental. When I saw the replay, it seemed pretty clear that Boogaard was going for an open ice hit, then caught Jones' knee when he tried to avoid Boogaard. Incidental or no, it's definately worth the minor he got, but if anyone else on the Wild roster does that, there's no suspension.
                  Sorry that is a fallacy. Boogie didnt play for a while a month or two ago if I remember and the space wasnt clogged up. Even if I were to believe that somehow his "presence" makes any difference on the team it doesn't make up for the fact that he is completely worthless beyond throwing mean looks at someone and the refs are gunning for him when he touches the ice. Goons like him are another reason the NHL is a friggin joke.
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                  • #354
                    Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    From Russo's blog.
                    Oh yeah... I forgot about the Prust incident. That one definately counts.
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                    • #355
                      Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                      Originally posted by GreatLakerMohawk View Post
                      Peter Chiarelli said that it's likely that Marc Savard's season is over.
                      Not much of a surprise when you compare it to Bergeron's recovery. Such an unfortunate incident for both players.

                      This year has been such a disaster for the Bruins. I'm okay with Savard not coming back. I really don't want to see the Bruins get smoked by the Capitals in four straight. I think it would just be best if the team rested from what was a tough year physically for them and try to figure out how to turn this ship around.
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                      • #356
                        Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                        Bruins might as well tank it and try to get the #1 and #2 picks

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                        • #357
                          Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                          Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                          Bruins might as well tank it and try to get the #1 and #2 picks
                          The rest of the NHL would be thrilled. If another team wound up with Hall & Seguin/Fowler, they'd probably do something stupid like try to keep them forever as franchise cornerstones. If Boston drafts them, they'll be available again within five years.
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                          • #358
                            Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                            Originally posted by kennedy View Post
                            The rest of the NHL would be thrilled. If another team wound up with Hall & Seguin/Fowler, they'd probably do something stupid like try to keep them forever as franchise cornerstones. If Boston drafts them, they'll be available again within five years.
                            I assume you're referring to Thornton and Kessel? Surely you don't think those guys are go to leaders/franchise players...

                            Has Thornton proven to be that guy in the playoffs? Do you think Kessel is a face of the franchise type player?

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                            • #359
                              Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                              Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                              I assume you're referring to Thornton and Kessel? Surely you don't think those guys are go to leaders/franchise players...

                              Has Thornton proven to be that guy in the playoffs? Do you think Kessel is a face of the franchise type player?
                              Well, it's not just that. Going back from 2000-2007 (anything more recent would be unfair), who comes to the corefront among Bruins draft choices as being a guy that really was a standout guy for Boston?

                              If Kessel isn't included on that list, only Bergeron, Krejci and (to a MUCH lesser extent) Lucic come close to really filling that description.

                              Boston just hasn't made a name for themselves with their ability to draft/develop talent in recent years. Perhaps with Chiarelli things will show signs of a bigtime turnaround over the next several years. Montreal saw similar things in the 90s and early this decade and things seem to be changing there; maybe they will in Boston's case, too.

                              You wouldn't think anyone would be able to miss with two top-10 picks, and that's what the B's may certainly have.
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                              • #360
                                Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

                                I'd like to echo Colby and Kennedy's comments about Boston. They do not draft well.

                                In fact, they draft really poorly.
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