College Football 2024

[RaceBoarder]

While the 12 team format is not ideal hence spreads such as....

#6 Penn State (-11) vs. #3 Boise State
#5 Texas (-13.5) vs. #4 Arizona State
#8 Ohio State (-2.5) vs. #1 Oregon

...it's still imho better than it was. Even if you perfectly "math" your way to a field there are going to be complaints.

Honestly if you want to create more crossover to feel better about comparing teams, the P5 conferences have to agree to have some type of system of rotating inter-locking NC schedules sort of like how the B1G and (ACC?) have a NC crossover in basketball every year, and no more scheduling NE Louisiana Tech St or Florida Polytechnic bulls**t.

This is a perfect example as to how spreads are driven by "blind" betting $$$ over what people actually think the outcome will be.

All the favorites in this will have a crap ton more $$$ put on them because of the name. So books need to compensate to the other side to get $$$ being put on them.

Using MoneyLine odds to support strength is a massive flaw.

[MichVandal]

How does that solve anything? The ranking system is not really subjective, especially when one of the major media groups have a financial interest in two of the conferences. Even when it was just 2 teams, there were blow outs, let alone how common it was for 4.

what is the problem you are trying to solve?

[dxmnkd316]

How is it overcomplicated? We already have the rating system and it's been around for 20+ years. A twelve team bracket with the top four ranked teams getting byes is much more complicated than what I described.

[Slap Shot]

While the 12 team format is not ideal hence spreads such as....

#6 Penn State (-11) vs. #3 Boise State
#5 Texas (-13.5) vs. #4 Arizona State
#8 Ohio State (-2.5) vs. #1 Oregon

...it's still imho better than it was. Even if you perfectly "math" your way to a field there are going to be complaints.

Honestly if you want to create more crossover to feel better about comparing teams, the P5 conferences have to agree to have some type of system of rotating inter-locking NC schedules sort of like how the B1G and (ACC?) have a NC crossover in basketball every year, and no more scheduling NE Louisiana Tech St or Florida Polytechnic bulls**t.

[dxmnkd316]

Here's my proposal:

My primary objective is to find the best team in the nation. The team with the most compelling argument of being the best.

I don't like playoffs. I hate single elimination playoffs. Take the following scenario: The gophers and Wisconsin play the exact same schedule, beat the same teams, lose to the same teams, and when they play each other Minnesota wins all four game. They make it to the finals and play each other. Wisconsin wins. Who is the better team?

I think you need playoffs to get more data. Take the following scenario: The gophers and Boston College play similarly difficult schedules and have an argument to be the best team in the nation but they never play because in this world we don't have playoffs. Who is the better team?

Bring it back to football. There are like 130 teams who play extremely disparate schedules with so few games that you'd never get a full picture or have enough data. Enough data is available that you can rate teams with dozens of systems and compile those into a composite rating. Flaws and strengths of each rating system get averaged out. All aspects are considered. Record, strength of schedule, strength of victory, statistical performance of defense and offense, etc.

At the end of conference play you take either the top four or eight teams from the entire field irrespective of conference. In the eight-team scenario you play a standard seeded tournament. In the four-team scenario you play a round-robin format. The season stays the same length as today.

Both ensure the teams with the best resumes play the other teams with the best resumes. At the end of both you would rerate all 130ish teams with the same composite and the team at the top is semi-objectively crowned the best team. The playoffs or RR winner can get a small trophy marking this meaningful but not all-important result.

It is almost impossible to get an objective champion without playing enough games. I don't know what that number is, but it's not feasible. Best of seven gets you close. But we're not extending the season two months.

The only way to get close to fulfilling the goal of picking the best team is by getting data and analyzing it with enough systems to determine which team performed the best throughout the entirety of the season. Single games are too random.

[dxmnkd316]

Nobody pointed out that it was unfair for Indiana since they rarely play football after November. Just as rare as sec teams playing in freezing temps.

Jesus Christ. Elbow from the top rope!

[Bronco]

Nobody pointed out that it was unfair for Indiana since they rarely play football after November. Just as rare as sec teams playing in freezing temps.

That got a chuckle out of me.

[MichVandal]

Nobody pointed out that it was unfair for Indiana since they rarely play football after November. Just as rare as sec teams playing in freezing temps.

[Bronco]

Clemson and SMU are making sure that Bama gets in next season.

Just cut to the chase and put in the top 8 SEC and B10 teams. That is where this all ends up in the end anyway.

[MichVandal]

Welp, Clemson got back into it for a moment. Then Texas remembered that they just need to run the ball and the Tigers can't stop it.

Clemson and SMU are making sure that Bama gets in next season.

[MichVandal]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if that is a real change in a couple seasons.

Too bad ND wont get a bye.

But, yea. They will line up all of the excuses, much like how B1G teams “suffer” at the Orange Bowl when it’s 80 there on New Years Day.

[Bronco]

Next year, all playoff games will be held down south so no one gets too cold

It wouldn't surprise me at all if that is a real change in a couple seasons.

[dxmnkd316]

This format sucks ***

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Because ESPN owns the SEC and their teams never leave the south - especially when it is cold.

Next year, all playoff games will be held down south so no one gets too cold

[bronconick]

Unfair to punish Tennessee with a road game like this; it's hard to understand how difficult it is to get through a SEC schedule with only two losses.