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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by ScottK View Post

    They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

    BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.
    Which, over the long term, would mean it should happen roughly 1 out of 100 times or else it is no longer a 100-year event but instead a 75- or 150-year event (or whatever way and magnitude it misses).

    You flip a coin ten times, you may get a weird streak of 8 heads in a row in there by random chance. You flip a coin 10,000 times, it better be within a fraction of a percent of 5,000-5,000 by the 10,000th toss or else that's pretty strong evidence you've got a loaded coin.

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  • psych
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    Originally posted by ScottK View Post

    They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

    BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.
    Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

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  • ScottK
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    Originally posted by psych View Post

    That was only a 1-in-100 year event? Damn.
    They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

    BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

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  • psych
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    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
    Inches of rain: 17
    NC deaths from the storm: 30
    advertised as this many years’ event: 100
    number of NC bubbas now convinced that climate change is real: 0
    That was only a 1-in-100 year event? Damn.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    T.S. Kirk

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at...start#contents

    Captain Kirk is going after fish.

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  • LynahFan
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    Inches of rain: 17
    NC deaths from the storm: 30
    advertised as this many years’ event: 100
    number of NC bubbas now convinced that climate change is real: 0

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  • Proud2baLaker
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    My best friend/former neighbor from grade/high school lives in Northeast Tennessee area. Just visited him for a week of fly fishing at the end of July. Finally got an update from him:

    He is without power of course but he and his family are safe. The pipe making plant that he is the manager of was swept away. It was right next to the Nolichucky with the interstate between them. Said they had 30 minutes to get out from the time they got the call from the local fire chief before the plant was gone. But all his employees made it out though some did lose vehicles. The plant/company next door was not as lucky. For some reason, apparently some of their guys hesitated or something and stayed behind. 5 of them were swept away and lost.

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  • walrus
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    30 inches of rain recorded in one western county in NC. Unreal in that short of a time period. Talked to a buddy near Raleigh and he said nothing much there

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  • mookie1995
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    Thoughts and effen prayers

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

    Are farmlands in Mn flooding that much? Didn't know that. We have gotten a lot of water, but it seems that most of the bad flooding is around people where engineers altered the water flow.
    In some areas this year they did - and Iowa was worse. We went from four years of drought to a sopping spring

    looking at the claims for insurance would be super interesting. But so many harvests are now short or late due to conditions

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  • MichVandal
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

    Yeah but we’re warming faster than any other area. And the periods of flooding and droughts are brutal on farmers. I wish we were gonna be a haven but we’re likely not really (but it will be a little of “pick your poison”)
    Are farmlands in Mn flooding that much? Didn't know that. We have gotten a lot of water, but it seems that most of the bad flooding is around people where engineers altered the water flow.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

    It sucks for sure, but as it's changing, our area is becoming even better for farming. And all of the "climate migrant locations" are on the Great Lakes.
    Yeah but we’re warming faster than any other area. And the periods of flooding and droughts are brutal on farmers. I wish we were gonna be a haven but we’re likely not really (but it will be a little of “pick your poison”)

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  • MichVandal
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

    The scary part is - that a lot of these climate models are probably really wrong, because these extremes are feeding systems faster than we predicted and some of the eco systems are gonna fail faster than we think.
    It sucks for sure, but as it's changing, our area is becoming even better for farming. And all of the "climate migrant locations" are on the Great Lakes.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    Sorry, yes, I was going to add "if not for the water issue" but forgot while watching Michigan Minnesota.

    anyways, yeah, Arizona will be uninhabitable because of water. But solar could be a huge boon to sun belt states and AC.
    The scary part is - that a lot of these climate models are probably really wrong, because these extremes are feeding systems faster than we predicted and some of the eco systems are gonna fail faster than we think.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

    If you look at just solar sure but I’m not sure many scientists would agree with you that Arizona will be better in 20 or 50 years. The water issue is a very, very big deal and huge desalinization plants are not easy and the Great Lakes ain’t gonna let them steal our water.

    its a lot more complicated that just “Arizona hot, solar big” but I’m sure you know that.
    Sorry, yes, I was going to add "if not for the water issue" but forgot while watching Michigan Minnesota.

    anyways, yeah, Arizona will be uninhabitable because of water. But solar could be a huge boon to sun belt states and AC.

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