2024 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather

[ScottK]

That was only a 1-in-100 year event? Damn.

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

[psych]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

[unofan]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Which, over the long term, would mean it should happen roughly 1 out of 100 times or else it is no longer a 100-year event but instead a 75- or 150-year event (or whatever way and magnitude it misses).

You flip a coin ten times, you may get a weird streak of 8 heads in a row in there by random chance. You flip a coin 10,000 times, it better be within a fraction of a percent of 5,000-5,000 by the 10,000th toss or else that's pretty strong evidence you've got a loaded coin.

[LynahFan]

They had a similar flood in 1916 in Asheville.

BTW, a 1-in-100 year flood does NOT mean it should only happen once in a 100 years. It actually means that the odds of it happening in any year are just 1 in 100.

Which, over a long enough period of time, is really the same thing. If a particular size of flood really is a “100 year” event, then in a million years you would expect to see almost exactly 10,000 of them. Sure, it might vary by a handful, just as if you flipped a million coins, you might not get exactly 500,000 heads, but it would be pretty darn close - certainly less than 1% away from that.

[Ralph Baer]

T. S. Leslie

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at...start#contents

[ScoobyDoo]

So, asking for my own curiosity and being sensitive to economic issues. If you live in a flood plain and a hurricane comes in it just seems to me that it is imperative you get the people the **** out of there? It appears again that the hurricane hit, and it hit flood plains, and bang it's like Katrina all over again.

Don't we ****ing learn?

[RaceBoarder]

So, asking for my own curiosity and being sensitive to economic issues. If you live in a flood plain and a hurricane comes in it just seems to me that it is imperative you get the people the **** out of there? It appears again that the hurricane hit, and it hit flood plains, and bang it's like Katrina all over again.

Don't we ****ing learn?

I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.

[ScoobyDoo]

I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.

No, I do not think so. I'm talking about North Carolina. In particular Asheville which is dead center in a flood plain. I mean I understand the models say once every hundred years but we've had enough of these once every hundred year storms now in various areas of the country that people should be more aware then what they are.

This story here is a fine example of the insanity. Although this is Tennessee. The people I know there LEFT the area because of the storm. They had plenty of time and were paying attention apparently more than the people in power.

Florida told people to get the **** out and they got out.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...hel-rcna173597

[Proud2baLaker]

My friend in Tennessee, who was at the plant next to Impact Plastics where people were swept away (they evacuated a little earlier) said there was never really any kind of suggestions or orders to evacuate prior to the storm hitting. It sounds like while they expected rain and wind, no one expected this. He said reports and forecasts for the area were calling for about half that rain which, while still a lot, would probably not have been nearly as bad. And apparently some of those reservoirs and what not were already higher than normal due to rains in the days leading up to when Helene actually hit. That certainly did not help the situation.

[ScoobyDoo]

My friend in Tennessee, who was at the plant next to Impact Plastics where people were swept away (they evacuated a little earlier) said there was never really any kind of suggestions or orders to evacuate prior to the storm hitting. It sounds like while they expected rain and wind, no one expected this. He said reports and forecasts for the area were calling for about half that rain which, while still a lot, would probably not have been nearly as bad. And apparently some of those reservoirs and what not were already higher than normal due to rains in the days leading up to when Helene actually hit. That certainly did not help the situation.

Well, I certainly apologize if there were bad weather reports, however, like I stated the people I know who live in that State were smart enough to get out of Dodge.

[Kepler]

I don't think you grasp the situation in the Appalachians. This is not normal. This is not expected.

The coastal areas were hit hard, but this is unprecedented in the hills and that is where most of the flooding damage is coming from.

This is like me making fun of you because your house flooded because you had a freak storm system where T-storms ran a train on your area and dumped 14" of rain in 5 hours and you lost everything.

Also, the storm path seems to have turned east. I don't think there was a lot of warning. And if you're higher elevations a storm where they talk about surf surges is not on your radar.

I get it.

But still, Shoulda prayed harder.

[Bronco]

Kicking people who have lost everything seems pretty petty. Just sayin'.

[Kepler]

Kicking people who have lost everything seems pretty petty. Just sayin'.

I would agree if they weren't stripping people of their rights because of their proud, virulent ignorance.

[Russell Jaslow]

My parents live in Asheville. They are okay. They also never expected it to be this bad.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Ruh roh. Milton is coming

get ****ed Florida!