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  • #751
    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

    Not to mention AOC, which makes any continued silence from Tlaib pretty deafening and d@mning.
    She’s not been quiet about the UK and French elections.

    i still worry about the damage she can do. She’s handling this like a child

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    • #752
      I can’t read it but John fuselgang posted a wapo piece today covering how when candidate names are removed, even trump voters prefer bidens policies

      but of course.
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      • #753
        Social media is touting that in the past 3 years, the so-called "left behind counties" - the ~1,000 counties across the United States that experienced lagging population and income growth from 2000 to 2016, and were disproportionally hammered by The Great Recession - have enjoyed their highest rate of job creation and business growth since the 90s. That said, they still lag behind the rest of the nation.

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        • #754
          Originally posted by Handyman View Post

          Literally no one has said "There should be no debate" and you know it. But dx is right...some of these outlets are knowingly lying and if you choose to support them than you are just being a "Good Little German". Many in the media are cooking the books...the biggest example is how much they all of a sudden respect Kamala Harris when they have spent 3 years ignoring her and everything she does. Now all of a sudden we are supposed to believe that they won't crap all over her as soon as Trump starts attacking her?

          It doesn't matter anyways. Replacing Biden is not happening. The only people panicking right now are White People. (many of them old) Same spineless BS we always see from Democrats. Always worried about what the polls say never about what the actual people say. (btw Morning Consult has Biden still winning in WI and MI despite apparently having Parkinson's and Alzheimer's)

          You can discuss it until the cows go home, but you are wasting your time because it is not happening. If they forced Biden out now they would face a backlash at the ballot box. People voted in the primaries and he won handily. ("Uncommitted" did less than half as good as Haley did) You wipe their votes out without giving them a say and you are no better than the Republicans. Full stop. And before you say it, if you talk to actual voters they say they want Biden. Even CNN hasn't been able to edit out that truth yet when they have actual voters on.
          Also the RNC has all but said that the second the Dems remove Biden from a ballot, they'll gum up the gears and get the courts to block any other names. The time to pick someone else was apparently last winter.
          "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


          Western Michigan Bronco Hockey- 2012 Mason Cup Champions

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          • #755
            Originally posted by bronconick View Post

            Also the RNC has all but said that the second the Dems remove Biden from a ballot, they'll gum up the gears and get the courts to block any other names. The time to pick someone else was apparently last winter.
            Oh there is no doubt. It would be tough to do if they just have Harris run because she is on the ticket already and the successor to him but anyone else and the GOP will sue and have an arguable point to keep them off the ballot. There isn't enough time to get enough signatures to make it work. Not to mention voter rights groups will sue the DNC to block the change as well... And then lets say all of the new candidate survives all of that he/she is going to be so far behind in fundraising they might as well just quit anyways. The $240 million the Biden Camp has right now (which includes ridiculous fundraising since the debate) does not transfer. Some might if it is earmarked for the Party not the candidate, but anything raised by Joe or in Joe's name goes back to the donors.

            If all of these Old White People are so scared, why didn't they back Dean Phillips when he ran in opposition? A solid protest vote in his favor and you have a completely different scenario right now.

            And I will continue to say it is "Old White Men" who mostly care about all this because it is. The Congressional Black Caucus, The Hispanic Caucus, The Progressive Caucus and most of the big money donors (despite what cnbc is putting out there) have all backed Biden.
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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            • #756
              Yesterday the Times had 4 stories (plus an Op-Ed) about how Biden is old and 1 story on Trump and how he is "moderating" the GOP stance on abortion.
              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
              -aparch

              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
              -INCH

              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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              • #757
                I listened to the entirety of yesterday’s interview and other than Biden’s voice sounding stronger than it did at the debate it was pretty poor. He really struggles to put a sentence together and does a lot of rambling. He reminds me of grandpa when he isn’t safe on the road anymore and his kids want to take the keys away. Time will tell what happens but I can’t see waiting making the situation better.
                Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year
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                • #758
                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                  Oh there is no doubt. It would be tough to do if they just have Harris run because she is on the ticket already and the successor to him but anyone else and the GOP will sue and have an arguable point to keep them off the ballot. There isn't enough time to get enough signatures to make it work. Not to mention voter rights groups will sue the DNC to block the change as well... And then lets say all of the new candidate survives all of that he/she is going to be so far behind in fundraising they might as well just quit anyways. The $240 million the Biden Camp has right now (which includes ridiculous fundraising since the debate) does not transfer. Some might if it is earmarked for the Party not the candidate, but anything raised by Joe or in Joe's name goes back to the donors.

                  If all of these Old White People are so scared, why didn't they back Dean Phillips when he ran in opposition? A solid protest vote in his favor and you have a completely different scenario right now.

                  And I will continue to say it is "Old White Men" who mostly care about all this because it is. The Congressional Black Caucus, The Hispanic Caucus, The Progressive Caucus and most of the big money donors (despite what cnbc is putting out there) have all backed Biden.
                  Exactly. We had a primary. It wasn't close. No one made a compelling argument to replace him then because - and I'm yelling this for the people in the back - HIS POLICIES ARE GOOD* AND HIS ADMIN IS EFFECTIVE

                  It's Biden and the politicians we often characterize as the most astute are backing him as well. And vocally so. It's well past time to move on from this media-driven nonsense and focus on winning the race.


                  *Generally
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                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
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                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West
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                  • #759
                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                    Exactly. We had a primary. It wasn't close. No one made a compelling argument to replace him then because - and I'm yelling this for the people in the back - HIS POLICIES ARE GOOD* AND HIS ADMIN IS EFFECTIVE

                    It's Biden and the politicians we often characterize as the most astute are backing him as well. And vocally so. It's well past time to move on from this media-driven nonsense and focus on winning the race.


                    *Generally
                    Bingo.
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                    -aparch

                    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                    -INCH

                    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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                    • #760
                      https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar..._D0dq1jR1nErCA

                      Ted Lieu: "Something I've heard that doesn't seem to be getting covered is the Epstein files ... Donald Trump is all over this ... y'all might want to look at that."
                      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                      -aparch

                      "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                      -INCH

                      Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                      -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                      • #761
                        NYT also had something about Democrats calling for Biden to withdraw. 6 House members. 0 Senators. 0 governors.

                        You could find six House members that would support Satan.
                        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                        • #762
                          People on social media are tricking bots by posting override commands. They get them to write poems, stories, anything to prove they aren't real. It's funny to read but it's scary how easily people (especially the media) are getting played.

                          (The bots are all concerned about Biden)
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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                          • #763
                            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                            Exactly. We had a primary. It wasn't close. No one made a compelling argument to replace him then because - and I'm yelling this for the people in the back - HIS POLICIES ARE GOOD* AND HIS ADMIN IS EFFECTIVE

                            It's Biden and the politicians we often characterize as the most astute are backing him as well. And vocally so. It's well past time to move on from this media-driven nonsense and focus on winning the race.


                            *Generally
                            I for one have been one of the biggest Biden cheerleaders around here. I believe his policies have been solid and the effectiveness of his administration has been off the charts. And I'll say this again, measured fairly against the realities of modern politics, he is still the best president in my lifetime, and I have been around now for a lot of presidents. My worry is almost all about perception. Almost.

                            Biden's speech today at the NATO summit was a great example of Joe Biden in good form. He was engaging and seemed to be reveling in the moment. That Joe Biden would do fine and if he couldn't beat trump, neither could Jesus Christ running as a Democrat.

                            But much like Biden says don't judge him on 90 minutes more than 3 1/2 years, we need to see more of today's Biden. I don't think he is mentally compromised. I think behind closed doors when actual decisions are made he is a billion times better than trump. I guess I hope enough other people see that but I really doubt they will if Biden has another moment like the couple he had on ABC and the debate.

                            I'll be spending a good portion of my September and October working to get people out voting for Sherrod Brown. I hate out of state travel for work but I almost wish they'd send me somewhere with a close presidential election because I think it's more important that Biden win than Brown, if it is one or the other. Brown is also polling ahead of Moreno in a couple of recent polls anyway. O course polling in Ohio, especially local and statewide polling, has left a lot to be desired.

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                            • #764
                              At the end of the day, as long as you vote for Biden, it counts the same whether you do it out of glee or terror.
                              Brown definitely needs your help. If Democrats have any chance of holding the Senate, they have to hold Brown.
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                              • #765
                                The village idiot may be worried about Biden talking.

                                the other one is rambling about Hannibal lector again tonight
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