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  • #31
    Originally posted by rufus View Post
    Even if they just stay home, it's a win
    I would think the type of voter who stays home in protest would also stay home in protest during the primary. Which is why I think it is more likely to reflect a non-trivial number of non-GOPers trying to bring Dump's share down to feed the narrative that he is losing support among his own people. I don't see any evidence of that in general. If anything the Boomerang Effect dictates the worse things get for him objectively the more tightly his derps will tie themselves to him.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

      If that's true, then it's B.S. I never could understand the logic of crossing aisles in primaries. The whole purpose of a primary is for the respective Party to choose their candidate. It's up to that Party, not anyone else not associated with said Party.
      But at that point, the state should stay out of the primary election business entirely. If the state is running it, people should be free to vote in any election they want.

      I'm all for jungle primaries if the state is running it. If the parties want to pick their own candidates separately, the parties can pay for that shiat like they do the caucuses.

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      • #33
        Barron Trump declines to be a delegate lmao
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        • #34
          Originally posted by jericho View Post
          Barron Trump declines to be a delegate lmao
          Oh, daddy will beat that right out of him.
          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jericho View Post
            Barron Trump declines to be a delegate lmao
            Isn't that the kid who is, how shall I say it, the natural expected combination of his parents' IQs?

            I suspect daddy wanted to roll him out there in a wheel barrow and unlike Dump there exists somebody in this cold world who actually loves him who said "no."
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            • #36
              https://www.threads.net/@accountable...igC3Y6Ey4zO4Jw

              Former AZ House Speaker Rusty Bowers on Donald Trump in 2022: “He has no idea what a hard life is and what people have to go through in the real world. He has no idea what courage is... I’ll never vote for him.”
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                I would think the type of voter who stays home in protest would also stay home in protest during the primary. Which is why I think it is more likely to reflect a non-trivial number of non-GOPers trying to bring Dump's share down to feed the narrative that he is losing support among his own people. I don't see any evidence of that in general. If anything the Boomerang Effect dictates the worse things get for him objectively the more tightly his derps will tie themselves to him.
                trump is going to be your next president. write it down now
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                • #38
                  You also said he would win in 2020...pardon me if I dont wager my mortgage payment on you mookie
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                    trump is going to be your next president. write it down now
                    Only if he picks up votes from 2020. That's not likely. Every moron susceptible to the GOP grift was already absorbed fully by then. Nobody is going to go over to an impotent convict.

                    I'll accept that 80 million losers identify with him. All 80 million should be deported to Rwanda. It would be wonderful to see them enslaved by Africans.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                      trump is going to be your next president. write it down now
                      Not even in pencil.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                        Only if he picks up votes from 2020. That's not likely. Every moron susceptible to the GOP grift was already absorbed fully by then. Nobody is going to go over to an impotent convict.

                        I'll accept that 80 million losers identify with him. All 80 million should be deported to Rwanda. It would be wonderful to see them enslaved by Africans.
                        Its a guarantee he lost some of them anyways. He is hemorrhaging votes in the suburbs thanks to Dobbs. The fact that Zona and Nevada are having abortion on the ballot is a killer. Anything less than 95% buy in and he loses by the same Electoral margin even if Dems protest vote against Biden in some states.
                        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                        -aparch

                        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                        -INCH

                        Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                          Its a guarantee he lost some of them anyways. He is hemorrhaging votes in the suburbs thanks to Dobbs. The fact that Zona and Nevada are having abortion on the ballot is a killer. Anything less than 95% buy in and he loses by the same Electoral margin even if Dems protest vote against Biden in some states.
                          You guys aren’t looking at state by state polling.

                          and it’s not like someone can’t pencil their oval for abortion rights AND THEN for the Donald.

                          right now it’s like 330-118 against biden. Heck MN and WA are even for the Donald right now…
                          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                            You guys aren’t looking at state by state polling.

                            and it’s not like someone can’t pencil their oval for abortion rights AND THEN for the Donald.

                            right now it’s like 330-118 against biden. Heck MN and WA are even for the Donald right now…
                            If you are following polls commissioned by Trump's campaign, yes. It does not look good right now for Biden (although, even the Trump polls in Virginia still had Biden ahead).

                            But, I would recommend not betting money based on polling by Trump's campaign.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                              You guys aren’t looking at state by state polling.

                              and it’s not like someone can’t pencil their oval for abortion rights AND THEN for the Donald.

                              right now it’s like 330-118 against biden. Heck MN and WA are even for the Donald right now…
                              I look at all polling...you are out to lunch. Polls said the Dems would lose massively every year since 2016. How is that working out? If polls told the story Trump would have won in 2020, the GOP would control both houses and Minnesota would have 2 GOP senators and at least 2cmore GOP reps. Polls aren't worth the prayer they are printed on especially in May.

                              If you think Minnesota is in play you need to lay off the sauce. Trump will lose by 5-7 points here and that would be a victory for him. He couldn't beat Hillary here he isn't beating Biden.

                              Why do you think in lieu of actually setting up campaign offices they are using money to beef up their "election security" bs? They are already saying it's rigged because internally they know they are screwed.

                              But hey he just had a rally in NJ let's check in: https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch...iCYsJxoQMQv-5g

                              There is another shot from the stage in the comments...more people go to SCSU hockey games. But I'm sure NJ is in play to...

                              Im not guaranteeing anything but the math is not on his side.
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

                              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                Im not guaranteeing anything but the math is not on his side.
                                This.
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