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  • Originally posted by unofan View Post

    Why should I give them empathy if they never return the favor?

    Again, why do Democrats have to turn the other cheek but never Republicans? Just because the media wants to force a double standard doesn't mean we have to give into it.

    If Trump gets elected, I'm not the one being hurt by it. My wife's all but past child-rearing age, and we can afford to travel for certain health care if my daughter ever needs it. If Democracy is the belief that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard, well, who am I to argue?
    Exactly!
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
    -aparch

    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
    -INCH

    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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    • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

      Is it your contention we havent...because if so I wonder if you have ignored Democratic Politics the last 20 years. Sorry but they made their choice it is not our job to placate them and hope that changes anything. We did that, and history shows it goes nowhere.

      Think of the programs put in place to help those people...think about who implemented them. When the mines are no longer safe or economically viable we make sure they have unemployment, health care and offer training for new jobs at no cost. When monopolies destroy their business we fight to protect them. When unionbusting happens or the unions go on strike it is us who walk the lines and fight for their rights to a phucking living wage. It doesn't change anything because their grievance has nothing to do with opportunity and everything to do with the fact that they don't like that their voice doesn't carry the weight that it used to. They would rather go broke than accept the fact that they live by the grace of the people they cannot even pretend not to despise whether it is Dems, Jews, Somalis, Latinos, Blacks, Gays, Women or people too young to know who the phuck Grover Nordquist is. They are never going to like us, because there is an entire infrastructure built to make sure they don't. As long as the Boomers are a thing, this will be the problem. Gen X is very different and Millennials have no interest in that kind of hatred.

      Do you not remember early 2017 when all we did was wonder "why did these people turn their backs on us"? When every media outlet and big mouthed Dem was trying to understand asking the very questions you just posed? Hell we did it here! We all had those discussions until the Midterms in 2018 and what we learned was, we didn't do anything to cause this. The GOP gave license to people who were usually inward about their biases to speak openly about them. That is why every group saw discrimination against them rise...why White People marched in towns saying things that would have gotten them beat just a year earlier. This is not some new phenomenon, just like cops killing Black People it was always happening, now it is just out in the open forcing us to reckon with it.

      To subscribe to your theory is to believe that prior to the rise of Hitler Antisemitism in Germany was not all that big of an issue when in reality most people will tell you Antisemitism of the time is what truly allowed for the rise of Hitler...he just gave them a way to couch it in German Nationalism so they could say it loud and proud.

      I know you don't want to believe it, I never did either. I wanted to believe if we just did the right things, if we talked with empathy to the "disaffected voter" that they would see the error in their ways and come back home. They didn't in 2020 (we needed an historic Dem GOTV to outflank them...barely) and they won't now or ever again...not as long as we believe that everyone has a right to prosper. Most of my life the Dems have winked and nudged that crap...pretending to care about everyone else while making sure the White...errr...right people got the largest portion of every pie. The second they let a N!&&#r be President that was the end of that crap... then a woman...CYA! Now its both...its over!
      It's not the GOP I'm worried about, I'm worried about herr dumpy and the next guy behind him.

      The one thing he's doing that helps is that he's alienating every minority to go D, but all of the angry white guys?

      You just want to let them fester into the next cult of personality that blames everyone else to make them happy?

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      • https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar...hxnugRo42YKtJA

        There won't be another debate because he won the first one.
        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
        -aparch

        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
        -INCH

        Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
        -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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        • Marianne Williamson...my lord!

          https://www.threads.net/@ami.l.berge...Kwj_K4ZO1xlSsw

          Stop mocking the Haitian Immigrants story because their voodoo is real and it will look bad to Ohio voters because we seem like snobs!

          Don't mock racism because it will look bad for the racists!
          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
          -aparch

          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
          -INCH

          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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          • Harris needs to go hard after Trump for his lying and self-serving doomsday false reality. She opened the door in the debate to branding him (to undecideds) as a liar.

            From CNBC's Carl Quintanilla
            Past 72 hours:
            1. biggest ever one-month drop in online grocery prices
            2. biggest ever one-week drop in shipping container rates
            3. McDonald's extends $5 value meal
            4. Disney cut ad-tier streaming price
            5. Gasoline futures imply an imminent sub-$3 national average
            Also lean in on the all the positives in the economy and how Trump's fear-mongering amplifies to negative views of the economy.
            The Terrier Hockey Fan Blog

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            • I read something interesting that I kind of buy into...short of DJT dropping below 13 Trump's option to sell hits this weekend I believe. Now if he sells he makes booku bucks but it also shows his company is rather worthless. (you don't cash out if the price is going to go up) The only way it has value is if he wins. If he thinks he is going to win he needs to not sell off to cash in at a much higher price.

              So if he sells off it means he is convinced he won't win. He is cashing out cause if November goes bad that stock won't be worth anything. (And the stock craters when he does) He might be forced to hold until the end just so he doesn't look weak.
              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
              -aparch

              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
              -INCH

              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar...hxnugRo42YKtJA

                There won't be another debate because he won the first one.
                I thought only Panda Express had orange chicken?
                U-A-A!!!Go!Go!GreenandGold!
                Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                I spell Failure with UAF

                Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                  I thought only Panda Express had orange chicken?


                  https://www.threads.net/@amy_siskind...HOWeRGtZU9R_uQ

                  Republican strategist Karl Rove's money quote in WSJ op-ed:
                  "But there’s no putting lipstick on this pig. Mr. Trump was crushed by a woman he previously dismissed as “dumb as a rock.” Which raises the question: What does that make him?"
                  Thanks again Tulsi!
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                  -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                    That is exactly who I was referencing in that bit. If Minneapolis is "Little Mogadishu" than Willmar is "Bite Sized Borama"

                    (second biggest city in Somalia)
                    It could be little Mogadishu, I saw Josh Hartnett the other day and as we all know he’s been wandering streets of Mogadishu ever since his Blackhawk went down

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                    • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                      My absolute favorite take down of one of his rants was where he was taking a bite of deep dish pizza and quipped that he made it to Chicago and "you know what they say, come for the pizza, stay because you got shot."
                      which was *immediately* lambasted because he filmed it in a pizza chain in a suburb 40 minutes from the City of Chicago.
                      Literally no one says that - about pizza or getting shot there.

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                      • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
                        You just want to let them fester into the next cult of personality that blames everyone else to make them happy?
                        As Buttigieg says, if we do X, they're going to call us godless communists. If we do the opposite of X, they're still going to call us godless communists. So let's do what we think is best since they're going to fester into the next cult of personality regardless. They're the ones telling everyone else to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Well, physician, heal thyself.

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                        • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

                          It could be little Mogadishu, I saw Josh Hartnett the other day and as we all know he’s been wandering streets of Mogadishu ever since his Blackhawk went down
                          Well played!

                          BTW I know Harris lost bigly but:

                          https://www.threads.net/@amy_siskind...Tl5S7ge4aHzlgw

                          NEW: Harris campaign announces it raised $47 million in the first 24 hours after her Tuesday debate with Trump. The $47 million sum came from nearly 600,000 individual donors! LFG!!!
                          That is 1/3 of what Trump raised in all of August
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                          • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                            As Buttigieg says, if we do X, they're going to call us godless communists. If we do the opposite of X, they're still going to call us godless communists. So let's do what we think is best since they're going to fester into the next cult of personality regardless. They're the ones telling everyone else to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Well, physician, heal thyself.
                            All of this!
                            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                            -aparch

                            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                            -INCH

                            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                            • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

                              Like for terrorism, all that really does is add to the white nationalist numbers. Not a great idea if we want to purge that cancer.
                              This country has an entire history of people picking up and moving elsewhere to look for better opportunities. From the earliest settlers, continuously pushing westward seeking better land or opportunity, from the slaves heading north to the big cities looking for work, from people fleeing the Dust Bowl for California.

                              If people aren't able to make a living where they are, they are always free to pursue their dream elsewhere. That's part of what made this country what it is.

                              If they choose to wallow in their sorrow and self pity, that's on them. It ain't for the gubmint or anyone else to improve their lot in life for them. Except, when the gubmint tries, it's usually met with a disdainful dismissal.The old Craig T. Nelson quote "I've been on food stamps and welfare, what'd the government ever do for me?"
                              What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                              • Originally posted by state of hockey View Post

                                But enough about Willmar, MN.
                                My mom was born, raised, and now is back living in Willmar. She’s a Democrat, never voted Republican in her life…and she says the Somalis are a “problem.” Okay, mom.
                                Their downtown is amazing…truly amazing. Rural white people shops surrounded by Somali shops and Somalis everywhere on the streets. I love it! Thanks, Jenni-O!
                                Marshall and Willmar dominated cross country and track back when I was in high school, thanks to the Somalis. Willmar might have even won nationals in cross country one year. We were in their conference. I finished 11th out of around 150-160 runners…all 7 Willmar guys finished ahead of me…6 Somalis and one white guy lol.

                                https://vault.si.com/vault/2006/12/1...on-the-prairie

                                An article on the team I was thinking of. Didn’t win but qualified for nationals. Abdi Awale and Kaafi Adeys were cool dudes.

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