World Soccer XXXI: Golden Generation?

[Jimjamesak]

I saw a chart which included things like Ideasport Soccer Academy, Intercontinental FA New England, and Kalonji Soccer Academy, and was asking whether they are competing franchises. They may just be "participating organizations" the way say MLB supports the Cub Scouts.

On the surface, these seem to be private academies that aren't associated with a location. Like having the Red Army team in the Russian hockey league.

Oh, you must be looking at MLS Next instead of MLS Next Pro.

MLS Next Pro is a US Soccer sanctioned professional 3rd division league that constitutes the reserve teams of MLS clubs plus some independent clubs like Carolina Core and Chattanooga FC.

MLS Next is a national youth soccer league featuring the youth academy teams of MLS clubs plus a number of youth clubs (somewhere around 100 IIRC) from around the country (including Shattuck-St. Mary's and even a couple of USL clubs). MLS Next is a continuation of US Soccer's Development Academy that ran until 2020. Once USSF cut the DA, MLS (literally the next day) announced they were going to run their own youth setup.

Yes, it's confusing branding.

[Jimjamesak]

https://theamericanoutlaws.com/stori...what-s-to-come

Yea, this is a slap in the face. International soccer sucks. F*ck every federation with a rusty spork. They are all in on it.

Sounds like CONMEBOL being CONMEBOL and US Soccer not having enough sway with CONMEBOL to change things.

[SonofSouthie]

Old Firm. Celtic 2-1 win puts them 6 points away from the Rangers with 2 matches left.

[Jimjamesak]

Jesse Marsch named Head Coach of Canada.

Actually, his official title is slightly different:

Jesse Marsch will be officially known as the “MLS Canada Men’s National Team Head Coach” due to philanthropic contributions from the three Canadian MLS teams.

That’s how broke Canada Soccer is.

[Kepler]

Old Firm.

How'd you know my nickname?

[SonofSouthie]

Ho-hum, another Scottish Premiership title for Celtic. Needing a point to clinch they thumped Kilmarnock 5-0.

[Kepler]

Ho-hum, another Scottish Premiership title for Celtic. Needing a point to clinch they thumped Kilmarnock 5-0.

What do they and that other team have now, 100 of the last 110?

[Jimjamesak]

What do they and that other team have now, 100 of the last 110?

Aberdeen won back to back in 1984 and 1985 and Dundee United won in 1983. Since then it's been Rangers and Celtic, they've won 109 out of 128. Celtic have won 13 of the last 14.

[Jimjamesak]

TBF, Scotland really isn't outside of the norm for most European countries. It's just in comparison to England where it looks strange.

Netherlands: Ajax, PSV, and Feyenoord have won 62 out of 70 professional titles.
Germany: Bayern has 32 of 61 Bundesliga titles.
Belgium: Not as bad, Anderlecht and Brugge have 52 of 120. Though add in Union and Liege it becomes 73 of 120.
Croatia: Dinamo Zagreb has won 25 out of 33.
Austria: Red Bull throwing things off lately but Rapid Wien, Austria Wien, and Red Bull Salzburg have won 73 of 111 titles.

France actually has a decent spread, though only because PSG was founded in 1970. PSG has won 10 of the last 12.

For England, Man U (20), Liverpool (19), and Arsenal (13) have 52 of 124. If Man City win this year it would put them at 10.

For comparison to the Americas: LA Galaxy have the most MLS Cups at 5 of 28 (the Galaxy and DC United have 4 each for Supporters Shields). Club America (14) and Chivas (12) only have 26 out of ~90 for Mexico. Palmeiras has 12 of 68 for Brazil. Boca Juniors (35) and River Plate (38) have 73 of 134 in Argentina.

[Russell Jaslow]

Since then it's been Rangers and Celtic, they've won 109 out of 128. Celtic have won 13 of the last 14.

And we like to talk about domination like the Yankees, Canadians, and Celtics. Wow. Our dynasties pale in comparison to those numbers.

[Jimjamesak]

And we like to talk about domination like the Yankees, Canadians, and Celtics. Wow. Our dynasties pale in comparison to those numbers.

Pretty much why the Champions League had to expand when TV really started in Europe in the 90’s, the teams needed competition. The domestic competitions are usually very boring because they’re essentially “play a bunch of games and team from (insert large city in the country) wins 90+% of the time.” And it’s usually like that across the continent. The PL is one of the most competitive leagues in Europe, and think about how often the same teams usually win.

[Russell Jaslow]

Pretty much why the Champions League had to expand when TV really started in Europe in the 90’s, the teams needed competition. The domestic competitions are usually very boring because they’re essentially “play a bunch of games and team from (insert large city in the country) wins 90+% of the time.” And it’s usually like that across the continent. The PL is one of the most competitive leagues in Europe, and think about how often the same teams usually win.

Makes me wonder whether the Super League concept was so bad after all. <ducks for cover> Sure, it was what college football is doing now eliminating the "poor saps", but in this case, it would greatly add competition.

[Jimjamesak]

Makes me wonder whether the Super League concept was so bad after all. <ducks for cover> Sure, it was what college football is doing now eliminating the "poor saps", but in this case, it would greatly add competition.

I said the same thing, the vast majority of teams would be better off with the big guns off in their own league. But they’re stuck with “tradition” and this idea that these superclubs are part of the national identity. Like, Ajax is Dutch football and Dutch Football is Ajax. Same thing with Bayern and Germany or Real Madrid and Spain.

It’s a bit under the surface but, there’s a trend among younger people that, because of the internet and global reach and social media, the whole idea of “support your local club!” is starting to die out. It’s not a huge issue right now, but it’s something for the future.

[Kepler]

Rags get one back. If they blow this 4 straight to those f-cking Dixie Diddlers I swear...

[SonofSouthie]

Atalanta wins the Europa League title and ends Leverkusen's 51 match unbeaten streak.