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    Like Ukraine, Gaza has now swallowed the Foreign Policy thread, so it deserves a place where everybody knows its name.
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    Good Times Bad Times talks about Gaza. They have had good analyses before about European economic issues, and Ukraine.

    One very sobering thought from a Pentagon official talking about how there are only 2 ways to clear Hamas from the urban environment: (1) dismount infantry and go floor by floor, like the Marines in Baghdad, (2) stand well back and bomb apartment buildings down to their basements, like Mariupol. In each case, there is a massive civilian death toll.


    Last edited by Kepler; 10-17-2023, 04:26 PM.
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    • #3
      This hospital **** is quite odd….
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
        This hospital **** is quite odd….
        Eh?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kepler View Post

          Eh?
          The timing is suspect.
          could the idf have done it? Sure

          but now it’s 50/50
          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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          • #6
            IDF is saying Islamic Jihad did it by accident with a stray missle. Normally I would call bs but something definetly seems off.

            Whoever did it might have forced this war into something that can't be walked back.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

              The timing is suspect.
              could the idf have done it? Sure

              but now it’s 50/50
              Huh?
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              • #8
                Gaza casualties up to > 3k dead, > 12k hospitalized.
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                • #9
                  Al Jazeera anchor doing a great job hammering Osama Hamdan, the Hamas representative, on why they don't release the civilian Israeli hostages. He actually got the guy to say there was no good reason not to. Actual journalism on network teevee. It was suddenly 1978 for a moment there.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                    The timing is suspect.
                    could the idf have done it? Sure

                    but now it’s 50/50
                    AJ saying the video evidence is that the missile originated from an Israeli position, but I don't know. IDF claiming it was a faulty Hamas missile.
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                    • #11
                      Post hospital strike, Jordan cancels the Amman meeting with Biden.
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                      • #12
                        Video on twitter follows the rocket across sky saying it came from area that was firing at Israel . Truth or video game footage.? Supposedly a journalist from Al jazerra
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                        • #13
                          Not sure what evidence has been seen, but Biden said it looks like Hamas blew up their own hospital

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            Not sure what evidence has been seen, but Biden said it looks like Hamas blew up their own hospital
                            I thought I heard it was not Hamas but another Terrorists Group. I had never heard of them before so I can't remember the name.
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                            • #15
                              It would be staggeringly and wildly stupid for Israel to purposefully blow up a hospital in Gaza. That said, mistakes happen and their aggression could absolutely lead them to accidentally do this.


                              And the same for the Hamas side. I believe Hamas is pure evil, but I feel like - without evidence - that a self-destruction like this would be a substantial step towards historical evil.


                              So where does that lead us? Sadly, we can't trust any of the video we see online. We can't trust the loudest voices, be they the IDF, Hamas leadership, Trump or Shaun King.


                              this is heartbreaking.
                              I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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