Gaza 2023: The Next Episode

[mookie1995]

these kids are morons. Toss then in jail, and ‘pound me in the butt’ jail at that. mookie hasn’t seen those hostages released yet. if they were protesting and wanting the remaining 120 released mookie would be on their side. but this?!?!?!?

[unofan]

Because Jews are involved. The one thing the world hates more than Jews are Jews who fight back. The past seven months have proven that without a doubt.

I mean, just because it's Israel doesn't mean this particular protest is anti-semetic. The response has clearly been disproportionate, and that ignores the whole Israeli settlements in Gaza and the West Bank prior to the Hamas atrocities.

But having said that, the protesters are still morons because they view it as black and white. I don't think they're inherently anti-semetic, I think they just are idiot kids who need to study more history.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

these kids are morons. Toss then in jail, and ‘pound me in the butt’ jail at that. mookie hasn’t seen those hostages released yet. if they were protesting and wanting the remaining 120 released mookie would be on their side. but this?!?!?!?

My favorite are the kids holding signs saying “lesbians/gays for Palestine”

it’s quite a show of solidarity to stand up for those you deem oppressed even if you have many differences. However I’m not sure these kids realize how much some of the people they are standing up for really, really hate them and wouldn’t hesitate to persecute them on their turf. Sure not every Muslim or Palestinian is homophobic but those cultures have horrific track records

we just need some Palestinian chicken to bring everyone together. That episode ending with Larry looking at the screaming Jews in the parking lot as he was going in to get his chicken is in my top five curb episodes of all time

[bronconick]

Rich ******* kids at UCLA wanted a list for some Hamas glamping.

[state of hockey]

****ed about the illegal settlements? Agreed. It’s bull crap and shouldn’t be allowed. Give it back.

Protesting what appears to be a pretty obvious ethnic cleansing campaign the Likud party really got going twenty some years ago? Got it. Very easily still with you.

Feeling grief and anger of the life lost during the current operation? Again completely understandable. Not going to argue with you.

Eager for the ICC to issue warrants on Netanyahu, Smotrich, and Ben-Gvir and drag them to The Hague? Honestly love to see it.

I *think* this is what most of the people out there want to see, and the rallies usually seem to start as such. But there’s some other crap that seems to pop up eventually…

Calling for the complete dismantling and/or destruction of Israel? Nope. Lost me on that one.

Telling Jews who or what they are and where they can live and when after reading a few Wikipedia articles? Okay I’m not surprised people are starting to get hit.

The cosplaying as terrorist organizations is pretty perverse, but hey you do you. Kinda makes
my stomach turn seeing American kids running around with Hezbollah flags, but my guess is that’s precisely the point.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

what happened in Hamburg this week is the kind of stuff that will make people lose a lot of sympathy for the cause, too. And not just because Germany doesn’t **** around with anti semitism

[Kepler]

Because Jews are involved. The one thing the world hates more than Jews are Jews who fight back. The past seven months have proven that without a doubt.

Jews who "fight back."

[Kepler]

it sounds like brown voted to divest and the kids dispersed quietly. I wonder that actually means to your point

They didn't even vote to divest. The kids asked for a hearing and got one, and then they dispersed.

The cops in their riot gear with pepper spray break heads. Somebody fights back and then the cops break faces, and it's "justified." Tale as old as time. And the news and the looky-loos fall for it and tut tut about "what those protesters need is to get a job."

Every protest in history has gone this way. Even with Gandhi and MLK when the authorities couldn't goad people into defending themselves, they just fabricated it.

It's always the same, and the worry-beaders are always the same, and then after the fight is won and change is made they all claim to have been with the protesters all along.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

How brown handled it is ideal. And notice it’s not on tv 24/7 either.

given that adams is who he is, I have no doubt Columbia was always gonna end with jackboots. But the students breaking into the building and smashing windows, etc was also asking for trouble.

im sure ucla is headed to a great path. Both sets of opposing students were apparently changing F Joe Biden today so they found common ground

[Kepler]

How brown handled it is ideal. And notice it’s not on tv 24/7 either.

given that adams is who he is, I have no doubt Columbia was always gonna end with jackboots. But the students breaking into the building and smashing windows, etc was also asking for trouble.

im sure ucla is headed to a great path. Both sets of opposing students were apparently changing F Joe Biden today so they found common ground

My bet is the first student gets murdered at either UTA or some slave state school with a derp President looking to get on Fox.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I don't remember students against students back in Vietnam protest days, it was them against establishment. But I was in Orono not near any large campus and probably not old enough to pay to close attention. at least until my brother went to vietnam.

At MTU, Dow quietly funded protests in favor of the war. Or at least, that's what my crazy anarcho-commie sociology prof claimed. Given the long and extensive relationship between Tech and Dow, that's one of his claims I do tend to believe.

[Slap Shot]

Is this generation heading toward their own version of "four dead in Ohio"?

[state of hockey]

University of Minnesota basically follows Brown’s playbook.

[joecct]

Can anyone a little older than me answer this?

how is anything happening on campuses right now drastically different than prior campus protests? Didn’t the anti war protests get pretty big back in the day?

im guessing social media, a corrupt media and schools calling in the riot police are the big differences?

sure, the girls in the hijabs last night at Minnesota shouting “go home to Germany and Poland” suck seem to want to be little terrorists. But I also think both sides are instigating crap for outrage videos, plus outside instigators happily jumping in

I'm 68, soon to be 69 so, yes, I do remember.

Mark Rudd and the the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) occupied Columbia buildings in protest of the Vietnam War. The difference was they were not masked and, as others have said, accepted the consequences of their actions. I don't recall campus buildings being defaced.

Then there were the activist militants like Weather Underground members Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who liked to build bombs and blow up things.

But the highlight (lowlight?) was the 1968 Democrat National Convention in Chicago. That was a mess with the confrontations between the protesters and the Chicago Police Department (televised by the major networks). The reaction inside the convention against Chicago mayor Dick Daley cost Humphrey the election.

Nowadays it seems there are professional agitators/organizers who are spreading gasoline on the flames and are manipulating the mob. For example, where did all those identical tents come from and who is paying for them?

Those pros are not the ones getting arrested or clobbered.

Kep is close to my age and invariably will have a different perspective.

[Swansong]

There seem to be two tacts in these protests, by school administration and police:

1. Work with the protesters and attempt to find some common ground. Maybe you can achieve something together, maybe you can't, but at least come at them on the level.
2. OMG CALL THE POLICE!!!1!!11!


One of those tacts has had a pretty smooth run of it, so far. And the other... less so. Can we all guess which tact leads to which outcome?