Russian Invasion of Ukraine

[dxmnkd316]

It's been shut down already. There's little chance of it having an issue.

More importantly, this dam had a massive reservoir behind it. Massive. 18 cubic km of water. It also provided up to 350 MW of power.

just an absolute disaster. There is no way they are going to be able to stop this from emptying and flooding everything downstream.

[dxmnkd316]

Interesting. This may have just failed. Look at the images from earlier this week in the thread.

https://twitter.com/gbrumfiel/status...6n8mNDLiymZKlg

also possible this was intentional. Fill the dam as high as it goes until it fails or you blow it up.

[aparch]

It's been shut down already. There's little chance of it having an issue.

It still needs water intake to maintain cooling during the shutdown, so there is still a crisis looming in the coming weeks if the cooling reservoirs aren't replenished.


Agreed on the downstream disaster.

[Kepler]

also possible this was intentional. Fill the dam as high as it goes until it fails or you blow it up.

Almost impossible that it wasn't intentional. Zelensky release a report saying the only way the dam could have failed would be if it was mined and detonated from inside.

So that leaves terrorism or Russia, and cui bono indicates Russia.

[Kepler]

Also, this:

[Swansong]

Well, Russia milbloggers blamed Ukraine for it, so we know who did it now.

[dxmnkd316]

It still needs water intake to maintain cooling during the shutdown, so there is still a crisis looming in the coming weeks if the cooling reservoirs aren't replenished.


Agreed on the downstream disaster.

From what I've read, the water demand is extremely low. CLoser to months rather than weeks. Could still go into a more complete shutdown if necessary, though, you generally like to avoid that.

[dxmnkd316]

Almost impossible that it wasn't intentional. Zelensky release a report saying the only way the dam could have failed would be if it was mined and detonated from inside.

So that leaves terrorism or Russia, and cui bono indicates Russia.

I mean, maybe? Dams that are overtopped typically don't stand to last very long. Especially one that hasn't been maintained properly for a year and a half... and took damage from shells. There's a reason you have emergency spillways, just in case....

[dxmnkd316]

WaPo published an absolute bombshell (no pun intended) this morning:


Edit: Here's my gift link to let everyone read it: https://wapo.st/3qv7vVI

[psych]

WaPo published an absolute bombshell (no pun intended) this morning:


Edit: Here's my gift link to let everyone read it: https://wapo.st/3qv7vVI

Thanks for gifting. That’s an even crazier story than the divers being trained at Panama City Beach. I hope the fallout isn’t too severe, but if I were Germany, I’d be royally pis-ed off.

[dxmnkd316]

Thanks for gifting. That’s an even crazier story than the divers being trained at Panama City Beach. I hope the fallout isn’t too severe, but if I were Germany, I’d be royally pis-ed off.

I should gift more often. I didn't know I got ten per month.

Anyways. The German government knew for almost a year now. The German people... this could be the most important day since the war began. Most of Europe has clenched their teeth and begrudgingly supported the war. I'm sure, at least in the short term, this will really hurt that support.

If they take a step back, count to ten, and take a deep breath, I think this was ultimately the right thing to do and was inevitable (the cutting off of gas supply). Easy for me to say that, but just goes to show how being a government is significantly more complicated than we would like to admit.

Being able to quietly put this aside and continue to send weapons and aid into Ukraine shows the German government understood their complicated responsibility. I hope the German people reach that same conclusion.

[Kepler]

In all honesty that's not something I would have published. Even if Ivan knew, which probably, public acknowledgement forces them to do some posturing action.

We're playing with nukes. Let's not lose life on earth for WaPo's shareprice.

[dxmnkd316]

Interesting. Not sure how I missed it, but the WaPo had published an article back in march about this as well.

and the article I posted was from yesterday morning. Somehow I missed it in the news cycle. Seems telling.

[Russell Jaslow]

WaPo published an absolute bombshell (no pun intended) this morning:


Edit: Here's my gift link to let everyone read it: https://wapo.st/3qv7vVI

I had read that somewhere else as well.

What I don't get is, why would Ukraine do that? It's a much larger risk to their relationship with their European allies than any damage to Russia's Treasury.

[dxmnkd316]

I had read that somewhere else as well.

What I don't get is, why would Ukraine do that? It's a much larger risk to their relationship with their European allies than any damage to Russia's Treasury.

Well, do you roll the dice on Europe doing the right thing or make certain your enemy's primary income stream is cut off and risk relationships?