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Pretty simple.Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
They aren't Trump.
As I said, Trump has exactly the support he had in 2016. A lot of independents, and some Democrats, weren't really supporters of him(look at some of them on this board), but went ahead and voted for him. Whether that continues in 2024 is up for debate. But to write him off outright, to dismiss his chances, is a big mistake that we shouldn't make.What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?Comment
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I think Trump is less dangerous than someone like DeSantis. For me, the reason is one I've spoken of before: Before Trump, my wife didn't give a flying f-ck about politics. Trump made her get up off her butt and vote Biden in 2020 because she was so disgusted with Trump. She doesn't know who DeSantis is, nor does she care. We all know DeSantis is just as, if not more, dangerous than Trump, but the average everyday American voter doesn't know that. Any Republican who wins the GOP nomination stands a better chance against Biden than Trump, and I think anyone in the GOP who isn't a diehard Trump supporter/worshipper knows that. Now, whether they mount a more effective resistance to Trump this time is another story.Originally posted by rufus View PostComment
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"CMP People" placed right over Camp Perry is *chef's kiss*Originally posted by Kepler View PostNever change, Oregon.
I assume "Long Range Mormons" is a reference to Mountain Meadows.Comment
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And literally no one did that...but thanks for the advice that we have been saying anyways for 4 years.Originally posted by rufus View Post"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007Comment
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I will agree, but with caveats. DeSantis is definitely dangerous on a fascist level, but I don't think he will inspire a lot of GOPers to vote...and I would bet he at best splits the MAGAytes especially after a war with Trump. The strength you are citing is also his main weakness. He has no real national cache. What people do know about him though is very polarizing and certainly will not get him much independent support nationwide. This is why I said he overplayed his hand too quickly. His best shot in the general (assuming he gets there...more on that later) was to be a Trump alternative that could tout less craziness and a "more sensible" form of Republican Leadership. (yes yes we all know he isn't that) If the GOP believed in math, or reading, or even just common sense they would have looked at the last 2 elections and fled towards the Center. MAGAyates are losing all over the place, the Trump endorsement is an anchor. Instead they are ignoring what voters in all of the battleground states told them and went harder Right especially Chubby Ronny and Waders. That is going to be a problem later on. The average voter doesn't care about CRT or Drag Shows...they care abotu how you plan to help them. Having your big accomplishments be "shipping Migrants to Blue States illegally" and "Starting a war with Di$ney and the media" is not an agenda...it is an application for a job at Faux.Originally posted by psych View Post
But the truth is, barring something bizarre DeSantis is going to be trounced by Trump. It is why I said his advisors should be telling him to wait. (his advisors should be fired for about 7 million reasons) Trump is going to walk away with it, not as easily as '16 but it will be pretty bad. By the time it is DeSantis vs. Trump it will be all over because everyone else will have endorsed Trump (Nikki Haley, Tim Scott and their ilk are Trumpers through and through) the old guard and the NeverTrumpers will back either Trump or the "sensible" candidate (The Larry Hogan Surrogate) and the rest will be split meaning he wins. The debates will be hilarious in a very sad way. DeSantis doesn't have the clout or charisma to beat Trump on a national stage...hell I am not even sure he can beat him in Flo(R)ida at this point."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007Comment
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You keep talking like he's history. So yeah, you are doing that.Originally posted by Handyman View PostWhat kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?Comment
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This. The DeSanti-stans know Trump is toxic and they see Governor High Heels as a guy with less baggage who will actually implement the things that Trump only promised to. However, his aggressively far-right policies and rhetoric may have played well to Florida Man ("Where Woke Goes to Die" has been an effective catchphrase for him with MAGAts), but not so much outside of Dixie except in rural Mich/Minn-issippi type counties.Originally posted by Handyman View PostComment
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I am unfamiliar with all of this save for the word "Mormon"Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostCode:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezOriginally posted by bigblue_dlHe's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North WestOriginally posted by KeplerComment
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I had to look it up. Is that the group Michael Moore was in as a kid?Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
I worked with a champion marksman at my old job and went shooting with him. His accuracy was like something out of a movie. He had a very large and strange collection of guns.
True story: he lives on a commune in Utah now and last I communicated with him, before COVID, he was avidly Q. I suspect he is an enviro-terrorist -- he really hates Monsanto. He hates banks -- for him, (((banks))) -- even more than I do. I think when he finally makes the news he will do more good than harm.
Last edited by Kepler; 03-15-2023, 01:21 PM.Cornell University
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CMP = Civilian Marksmanship Program and Camp Perry near Port Clinton, OH is one of the big NRA shooting ranges.
Mountain Meadows was a massacre of an migrant caravan from Arkansas that was committed by Mormon zealots. It may or may not have been authorized by Brigham Young (My guess - he probably knew about it and chose not to try and stop the faithful).Comment
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I assume they saved the female children.Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostCornell University
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That type of rhetoric and policy handed full control of the governments of both those states to Dems so...I am not sure it even works super well there. I know the New York Times and CNN won't want to hear this but, you can't understand every voter even in small counties by finding 3 of them in a diner in the middle of nowhere.Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007Comment
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Especially when two of them are local cops shaking down said diner for free coffee. ;-)Originally posted by Handyman View PostComment
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