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  • #91
    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    So, why did Olympic lose to NHL? 20 years ago, everyone would probably have bet the other way.
    European players learned to dislike the Olympic ice. Selanne made a point that it was actually easier for defensemen, you came off the boards to go take a shot and on the Olympic sheet it would take longer to get a good angle and allow a defenseman to get in the way.
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    Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
    Originally posted by Doyle Woody
    Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
      European players learned to dislike the Olympic ice. Selanne made a point that it was actually easier for defensemen, you came off the boards to go take a shot and on the Olympic sheet it would take longer to get a good angle and allow a defenseman to get in the way.
      Exact opposite of the old Gahden, where the distance from the red to blue was so short you had no hope of getting into the play. That made it a lot of fun, TBH.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        So, why did Olympic lose to NHL? 20 years ago, everyone would probably have bet the other way.
        I, too, thought that. But...

        Every coach I've spoken to over the years, especially those years I covered the D3 championship in Lake Placid, said Olympic size doesn't create any more scoring chances. In fact just the opposite. It's easier to keep the puck out wide and thus cut down on closer shots. They said, it always came down to protecting the box -- the areas between the dots and the goal line to the top of the circles. Everything else was miscellaneous space, so why create more miscellaneous space?

        The way the game has developed, Olympic size became "good in theory, but bad in practice."

        EDIT: I see Jim said pretty much the same thing. BTW, when Lake Placid renovated their arena two years ago, they made the ice size adjustable.
        Last edited by Russell Jaslow; 01-05-2023, 04:42 PM.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

          I, too, thought that. But...

          Every coach I've spoken to over the years, especially those years I covered the D3 championship in Lake Placid, said Olympic size doesn't create any more scoring chances. In fact just the opposite. It's easier to keep the puck out wide and thus cut down on closer shots. They said, it always came down to protecting the box -- the areas between the dots and the goal line to the top of the circles. Everything else was miscellaneous space, so why create more miscellaneous space?

          The way the game has developed, Olympic size became "good in theory, but bad in practice."

          EDIT: I see Jim said pretty much the same thing. BTW, when Lake Placid renovated their arena two years ago, they made the ice size adjustable.
          I thought the same for years too, especially since Anchorage and Fairbanks had/have Olympic sheets for years. It wasn’t until I saw the interviews with guys like Selanne and why Finland moved to smaller sheets (Finland is mostly 92’ wide these days) that the lightbulb clicked.
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          Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
          But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
          Originally posted by Doyle Woody
          Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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          • #95
            Yeah, I fell into the same trap. I always thought that then I heard some of the arguments against and it made sense. NHL size is just better overall.
            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

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            • #96
              The corners are usually pretty deep as well (Mariucci’s are insanely square) dissuading chasing and trying to start a forecheck after dumping it in. Makes for some very boring stretches of play.
              the state of hockey is good

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              • #97
                Well they salvaged a medal in a complete gong show of a game. 8-7 (OT). Chaz Lucius hat trick.
                the state of hockey is good

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by state of hockey View Post

                  Supposedly shifting to NHL size this off-season. Finally.

                  Edit: Never mind. I guess they’re going to 90’ wide. Really rounding out the corners to 24’ radius as well.
                  Every time someone mentions mariuccis Olympic size ice I think of the Cornell coach. That year of thr all wcha frozen four-he could not stop whining about having to play on the big ice sheet

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                    Well they salvaged a medal in a complete gong show of a game. 8-7 (OT). Chaz Lucius hat trick.
                    And to think, it was only 1-0 at the end of one...
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                    • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

                      Every time someone mentions mariuccis Olympic size ice I think of the Cornell coach. That year of thr all wcha frozen four-he could not stop whining about having to play on the big ice sheet
                      Funny thing is that now with a lot of time having passed and the sample size being quite large, whatever advantage has been claimed to exist doesn’t appear to translate to wins and losses.
                      the state of hockey is good

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                      • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

                        Every time someone mentions mariuccis Olympic size ice I think of the Cornell coach. That year of thr all wcha frozen four-he could not stop whining about having to play on the big ice sheet
                        That's funny because I follow Cornell hockey all year round and what I remember is one statement and then a million westerners wailing like scalded babies.

                        Isn't memory funny?
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                        • Great comeback, great overtime. We had several great chances. Beautiful winning goal by Canada.

                          Until next year.
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                            That's funny because I follow Cornell hockey all year round and what I remember is one statement and then a million westerners wailing like scalded babies.

                            Isn't memory funny?
                            Well, we were all there and your team wasn’t so…yeah. Was fun!

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                            • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Well, we were all there and your team wasn’t so…yeah. Was fun!
                              You guys should play NCAA eliminations at Lynah. Oh, sorry, I guess that wouldn't be "fair." \_(ツ)_/
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                              • I don't care about your Minny/Cornell fight, I juts want to ban the benches being on opposite sides.
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                                Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                                But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                                Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                                Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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