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Originally posted by MichVandal View PostIdaho really made it a game against the Hoosiers. For an 0-2 FCS team, the Vandals are either not bad, or WSU and IU really suck.
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Originally posted by psych View Post
Outside of the Covid year, Indiana has sucked for decades in football. They have to be in the top 5 for worst P5 conference football programs of all-time.
1. Wake Forest
2. Indiana
3. Northwestern
4. Kansas State
5. Iowa State
6. Kansas
7. Oregon State
8. Vanderbilt
9. Duke
Last edited by Kepler; 09-11-2022, 07:16 AM.Cornell University
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ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
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For college football, in addition to winning percentage, I would look at other factors, such as conference titles, bowl games, top 10 seasons, etc. And I would select a "champion" for each conference to get my bottom 5.
Let's start with the programs that have won 2 or fewer conference titles in the last 50 years:
ACC: Virginia (2), Boston College (1), Wake Forest (1), Duke (1)
B1G: Rutgers (1), Purdue (1), Indiana (0), Minnesota (0)
Big 12: Oklahoma State (2), Kansas State (2), Texas Tech (1), Kansas (0), Iowa State (0)
Pac 12: California (2), Washington State (2), Oregon State (1)
SEC: Kentucky (0), Ole Miss (0), Mississippi State (0), Missouri (0), USC (0), Vanderbilt (0)
Now let's rank these teams by the number of Top 10 seasons (using AP/Coaches Polls) in the last 50 years, and eliminate the top team from contention:
ACC: Boston College (2), Virginia (0), Wake Forest (0), Duke (0) - Boston College eliminated
B1G: Purdue (1), Minnesota (1), Rutgers (0), Indiana (0) - Purdue eliminated*
Big 12: Kansas State (6), Oklahoma State (4), Kansas (2), Iowa State (1), Texas Tech (0) - Kansas State eliminated
Pac 12: Washington State (5), California (2), Oregon State (1) - Washington State eliminated
SEC: USC (3), Missouri (2), Kentucky, (1), Ole Miss (1), Mississippi State (0), Vanderbilt (0) - USC eliminated
Then let's rank the remaining teams by the number of bowl games played in the last 50 years, and keep only the bottom two teams in contention:
ACC: Virginia (21: 8-13), Wake Forest (14: 9-5), Duke (8: 3-5) - Virginia eliminated
B1G: Minnesota (20: 9-11), Indiana (12: 3-9), Rutgers (11: 6-5) - Minnesota eliminated
Big 12: Oklahoma State (28: 18-10), Texas Tech (27: 13-14), Iowa State (15: 5-10), Kansas (9: 5-4) - Oklahoma State and Texas Tech eliminated
Pac 12: California (16: 10-6), Oregon State (12: 7-5)
SEC: Mississippi State (22: 12-10), Missouri (22: 11-11), Ole Miss (19: 14-5), Kentucky (17: 9-8), Vanderbilt (8: 3-4-1) - Mississippi State, Missouri, and Ole Miss eliminated
Then let's compare the bottom two in each conference by winning percentage:
ACC: Wake Forest (41.9%) vs Duke (48.8%)
B1G: Indiana (42.1%)vs Rutgers (49.3%)
Big 12: Iowa State (45.7%) vs. Kansas (46.9%)
Pac 12: California (55.0%) vs. Oregon State (47.2%)
SEC: Kentucky (50.2%) vs Vanderbilt (48.7%)
Using each of these metrics, (with winning percentage as the final tiebreaker) the "Champions" under this analysis are:
ACC: Wake Forest**
B1G: Indiana
Big 12: Iowa State
Pac 12: Oregon State
SEC: Vanderbilt
Ultimately, this lines up fairly well compared with overall winning percentage. The only "swap" is Iowa State for Kansas State.
*I broke the tie between Purdue and Minnesota by looking at the better results in the statistic above (conference titles in last 50 years). The Boilermakers edged out the Gophers 1-0, so Purdue was eliminated.
** Wake Forest and Duke tied 1-1-2 in the metrics, but Wake Forest is the ACC "Champion" based on their winning percentage.
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostPac 12: California (2), Washington State (2), Oregon State (1)
Cornell '04, Stanford '06
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Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.
Test to see if I can add this.
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Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View PostFrost is safe until October. That’s when his buy out drops significantly."I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites
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Originally posted by bronconick View Post
Decided they couldn't wait that long. FiredCornell University
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Originally posted by unofan View Post
That's an expensive 3 weeks. 7.5 million extra to not wait until October 1. Not worth it.
Maybe they were scared of what might happen if he was still coaching next week against Oklahoma. But based on the last two years it would've just been another one score loss instead of a blowout.Go Green! Go White! Go State!
1966, 1986, 2007
Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons
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Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View PostI know of a rapidly rising offensive coordinator I'm willing to let go of, cheap. Somebody have Trev Albert's number they can share with me?
Tommy aint makin any friends.Cornell University
National Champion 1967, 1970
ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020
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Not to bash on ND too much, but they are a great example why pre and early season polls are junk. Can’t call any game early in the season an upset until you know how good a team really is.
Heck, App St may really be that much better than A&M.
The only real upsets at this point are crossing divisions.
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Originally posted by MichVandal View PostNot to bash on ND too much, but they are a great example why pre and early season polls are junk. Can’t call any game early in the season an upset until you know how good a team really is.
Heck, App St may really be that much better than A&M.
The only real upsets at this point are crossing divisions.
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