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  • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

    So that means you would support a repeal or rewrite of the Reapportionment Act that fixed our federal House of Representatives at 435 members? Because it is hard to get coffee and donuts with your representative when 750,000 other people want to do the same thing. And what about an abolishment or constitutional re-working of the U.S. Senate, the most UN-democratic "democratic" body around? Please, explain to me now how you would envision the several states can get together and create a more responsive system of representation.
    You can fix the Senate by stopping the pretending that's going on that Puerto Rico and Washington DC do not deserve representation. That's 4 more Senators. You can fix the Supreme Court by changing the number of Justices to 13 which matches the number or districts, which it always should have followed.
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    • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

      You can fix the Senate by stopping the pretending that's going on that Puerto Rico and Washington DC do not deserve representation. That's 4 more Senators. You can fix the Supreme Court by changing the number of Justices to 13 which matches the number or districts, which it always should have followed.
      6% of the population sends 20% of the members of the Senate to D.C. Adding a few more might lessen the impact of it's inherant bias towards states with tiny populations, but as long as California has 40,000,000 people and Wyoming has 600,000, it will remain undemocratic.

      Besides, I know there are things we can do to address the stunning erosion of the democratic nature of our so-called democratic institutions, but people like Sic don't really want to see our government be responsive to ALL the people. Folks that look, work, spend, and pray like him are the ones he wants democracy to work for.

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      • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

        6% of the population sends 20% of the members of the Senate to D.C. Adding a few more might lessen the impact of it's inherant bias towards states with tiny populations, but as long as California has 40,000,000 people and Wyoming has 600,000, it will remain undemocratic.

        Besides, I know there are things we can do to address the stunning erosion of the democratic nature of our so-called democratic institutions, but people like Sic don't really want to see our government be responsive to ALL the people. Folks that look, work, spend, and pray like him are the ones he wants democracy to work for.
        We are a Constitutional Republic. Not a Democracy. I actually believe, and still believe in the Senate and how it is constructed. However, I never dreamed, nor did anyone else that we would have a Christian Theocratic Cabal in charge of one of the two parties that has no voter accountability and sole purpose for existence is to tear this government apart. And I also never dreamed that voters would stand for it this long.

        That's why I call this country stupid.
        That's why I now believe that this WILL NOT be the Democracy that endures. It will fall just like Rome.
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        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          So that means you would support a repeal or rewrite of the Reapportionment Act that fixed our federal House of Representatives at 435 members? Because it is hard to get coffee and donuts with your representative when 750,000 other people want to do the same thing. And what about an abolishment or constitutional re-working of the U.S. Senate, the most UN-democratic "democratic" body around? Please, explain to me now how you would envision the several states can get together and create a more responsive system of representation.
          Wrong scale.

          You went Federal (Armstrong, Hoeven, Cramer); I'm talking ND Legislature (Weber, Pyle, Howe). All the good fights are moving down a level. Didn't you hear?

          But it seems you don't like the Federal set-up. May I humbly refer you to Article V of the US Constitution, where you'll also find the Senate is set up to represent the States within the Federal system. The House is the populace.

          Should I want to see a change, it'd be repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment. That'd give even more reason for people to pay attention to who they send to their state capital.
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          • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

            6% of the population sends 20% of the members of the Senate to D.C. Adding a few more might lessen the impact of it's inherant bias towards states with tiny populations, but as long as California has 40,000,000 people and Wyoming has 600,000, it will remain undemocratic.

            Besides, I know there are things we can do to address the stunning erosion of the democratic nature of our so-called democratic institutions, but people like Sic don't really want to see our government be responsive to ALL the people. Folks that look, work, spend, and pray like him are the ones he wants democracy to work for.
            You can save the electoral college and the house by expanding it to a minimum of 1000 members. Then the house representation dwarfs the senate overrepresentation of the middle of the country and we get a more responsive house, too, as each rep covers about 300,000 people instead of the 700,000 currently.

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            • Democracy is a strange thing. That's why we have a democratically elected republic.

              On background, one of the seven cooperative principals is "democratic member control".

              Take a power (G&T) cooperative I know fairly well. It's made up of eleven distribution cooperatives. Each of the eleven gets one vote at the board room table. That said:
              • One of the distribution coops is over 50,000 members (meters); another is barely 1600. Each distribution coop gets one vote at the G&T.
              • Two of the eleven coops are over 50% of power purchases from the G&T. Two votes, one per. The under 50% group gets nine.
              And I'm in the 50,000 member cooperative that has the same one vote as the 1600. Yeah, that doesn't always feel so great.

              I understand what you're saying, "WeAreNDHockey"; but, it's a package deal. The small coop needs a way to make sure the big coop doesn't run it over within the prior agreed upon frameworks. (Two wolves and one sheep voting on dinner anecdote here.)
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              • It's weird. Amidst the far-right's celebrations re: overturning Roe, I'm seeing a handful who are biting their nails that overturning Roe will cost them the House this fall.

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                • The Senate is a BS, antiquated holdover meant to appease slave states. We should’ve gotten rid of it decades ago.

                  If we can’t get rid of it we should do what Labour did to the House of Lords and completely neuter it’s power: Make it a simple yes or no chamber. No power to introduce bills, no power to change bills, no filibuster, just a simple yes or no that can be overridden by the House.
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                  • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                    It's weird. Amidst the far-right's celebrations re: overturning Roe, I'm seeing a handful who are biting their nails that overturning Roe will cost them the House this fall.
                    They should be. Repubs screwed themselves. Normally I would say behind closed doors people will vote their wallet now they are going to rethink that.
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                    • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      It's weird. Amidst the far-right's celebrations re: overturning Roe, I'm seeing a handful who are biting their nails that overturning Roe will cost them the House this fall.
                      Gas stays at over $5 and inflation over 8% and it'll be forgotten. America: short attention span theatre. Or ...

                      "It's the economy, stupid." -- Clinton advisor
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                      • We are certainly going to learn something about American women. A woman who votes R now is simply insane. So, what percentage of those are there? We will find out in November.

                        Up until now women voting R could be stupid and/or delusional and tell themselves the Rs would never actually do it. But now they have. This is the difference between sheltering your roommate who has murder fantasies and sheltering him when he has actually murdered.

                        My guess is nothing will change. But plenty of women are telling me, no, this is going to hit the Rs hard enough that it will show up at the polls, perhaps decisively. So we'll see whether my abiding disrespect for the average voter is justified, or whether there actually is a depth she won't sink to.
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                        • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

                          Gas stays at over $5 and inflation over 8% and it'll be forgotten. America: short attention span theatre. Or ...

                          "It's the economy, stupid." -- Clinton advisor
                          Gas won't be over 5 bucks unless the war spreads. Abortion hits home, going to be the first question I ask when state reps come to talk.
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                          • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                            You can save the electoral college and the house by expanding it to a minimum of 1000 members. Then the house representation dwarfs the senate overrepresentation of the middle of the country and we get a more responsive house, too, as each rep covers about 300,000 people instead of the 700,000 currently.
                            Take the smallest state, set that to 1 House member, add two senators, index the rest by population per electoral vote. So Wyoming gets 3. California gets 68x that (39,664,128-582,233)/582,333 = 68 ---> 68*3 = 204 ----> House = 202, Senators = 2. Everyone in the country has equal representation. The states are overrepresented in the Senate, the people are overrepresented in the House. It's worse in the senate by a factor of 23 (max/min) / (max/min) = 23.


                            State Population Pop Scale EC Votes Reps Senators Pop/EC Vote Pop/House Pop/Sen
                            California 39,664,128 68 204 202 2 194,078 195,996 19,832,064
                            Texas 30,097,526 52 155 153 2 194,078 196,613 15,048,763
                            Florida 22,177,997 38 114 112 2 194,078 197,535 11,088,999
                            New York 19,223,191 33 99 97 2 194,078 198,077 9,611,596
                            Pennsylvania 12,805,190 22 66 64 2 194,078 200,145 6,402,595
                            Illinois 12,518,071 22 65 63 2 194,078 200,288 6,259,036
                            Ohio 11,727,377 20 60 58 2 194,078 200,721 5,863,689
                            Georgia 10,936,299 19 56 54 2 194,078 201,219 5,468,150
                            North Carolina 10,807,491 19 56 54 2 194,078 201,308 5,403,746
                            Michigan 9,995,212 17 52 50 2 194,078 201,919 4,997,606
                            New Jersey 8,870,685 15 46 44 2 194,078 202,959 4,435,343
                            Virginia 8,638,218 15 45 43 2 194,078 203,209 4,319,109
                            Washington 7,887,965 14 41 39 2 194,078 204,122 3,943,983
                            Arizona 7,640,796 13 39 37 2 194,078 204,465 3,820,398
                            Tennessee 7,001,803 12 36 34 2 194,078 205,468 3,500,902
                            Massachusetts 6,922,107 12 36 34 2 194,078 205,607 3,461,054
                            Indiana 6,842,385 12 35 33 2 194,078 205,749 3,421,193
                            Missouri 6,184,843 11 32 30 2 194,078 207,073 3,092,422
                            Maryland 6,075,314 10 31 29 2 194,078 207,324 3,037,657
                            Colorado 5,961,083 10 31 29 2 194,078 207,595 2,980,542
                            Wisconsin 5,867,518 10 30 28 2 194,078 207,826 2,933,759
                            Minnesota 5,739,781 10 30 28 2 194,078 208,154 2,869,891
                            South Carolina 5,342,388 9 28 26 2 194,078 209,283 2,671,194
                            Alabama 4,949,697 9 26 24 2 194,078 210,592 2,474,849
                            Louisiana 4,616,106 8 24 22 2 194,078 211,895 2,308,053
                            Kentucky 4,487,233 8 23 21 2 194,078 212,456 2,243,617
                            Oregon 4,325,290 7 22 20 2 194,078 213,211 2,162,645
                            Oklahoma 4,007,179 7 21 19 2 194,078 214,893 2,003,590
                            Connecticut 3,546,588 6 18 16 2 194,078 217,929 1,773,294
                            Utah 3,363,182 6 17 15 2 194,078 219,399 1,681,591
                            Nevada 3,238,601 6 17 15 2 194,078 220,506 1,619,301
                            Iowa 3,174,426 5 16 14 2 194,078 221,115 1,587,213
                            Arkansas 3,042,017 5 16 14 2 194,078 222,464 1,521,009
                            Mississippi 2,961,536 5 15 13 2 194,078 223,351 1,480,768
                            Kansas 2,919,179 5 15 13 2 194,078 223,841 1,459,590
                            New Mexico 2,109,093 4 11 9 2 194,078 237,852 1,054,547
                            Nebraska 1,960,790 3 10 8 2 194,078 241,980 980,395
                            Idaho 1,896,652 3 10 8 2 194,078 244,016 948,326
                            West Virginia 1,755,715 3 9 7 2 194,078 249,163 877,858
                            Hawaii 1,401,709 2 7 5 2 194,078 268,403 700,855
                            New Hampshire 1,378,449 2 7 5 2 194,078 270,148 689,225
                            Maine 1,359,677 2 7 5 2 194,078 271,618 679,839
                            Montana 1,093,117 2 6 4 2 194,078 300,938 546,559
                            Rhode Island 1,062,583 2 5 3 2 194,078 305,776 531,292
                            Delaware 998,619 2 5 3 2 194,078 317,479 499,310
                            South Dakota 902,542 2 5 3 2 194,078 340,528 451,271
                            North Dakota 774,008 1 4 2 2 194,078 389,314 387,004
                            Alaska 720,763 1 4 2 2 194,078 420,568 360,382
                            Vermont 622,882 1 3 1 2 194,078 515,014 311,441
                            Wyoming 582,233 1 3 1 2 194,078 582,233 291,117

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                            College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                            BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
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                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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                            • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              the people are overrepresented
                              This is literally impossible.
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                              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                                This is literally impossible.
                                I'll rephrase, more populous states are overrepresented.
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                                As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
                                College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                                BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                                Originally posted by SanTropez
                                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                                Originally posted by Kepler
                                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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