2022 MidTerms & State races- who ya got?

[bronconick]

So the response from GOP pundits who had a red trickle over the tsunami has been to

1. Raise the voting age to 21 and
2. Find unmarried women that voted 68% Dem and "put a ring on it."

[Swansong]

Moulton tripped out of the gate by trying to oust Pelosi as a rookie back bencher, and she punished him for it.

Hopefully, when Pelosi retires, if Moulton is still in Congress he can move forward again.

[Swansong]

But what do all the MAGAts do once the Republicans start slamming on Trumpy?

I think there are two distinct kinds of MAGA Chuds.

• Trump cultists. These people largely don't vote and if they do, only for Trump. The biggest mistake the GQP ever paid was to embrace these trolls and rely on them, because they will not follow the party onto the next guy. Further, they're usually so odious that they drive away that big squishy middle that both parties need.
• Non-Trumpist bullies. Ben Shapiro. Ron DeSantis. Greg Abbott. And their voters (like much of my family). These people likely despise Trump personally but will cognitive-dissonance themselves into dismissing all the problems with Trump-the-person because they like the result. Give them a Ron DeSantis or someone else who does basically the same thing but minus the TRUMP and they'll jump in a heartbeat.

The questions to me are:

1. Who will win in a primary series?
2. What will Trump do if he doesn't win?

[dxmnkd316]

Moulton tripped out of the gate by trying to oust Pelosi as a rookie back bencher, and she punished him for it.

Hopefully, when Pelosi retires, if Moulton is still in Congress he can move forward again.

It wasn't just that, remember that he was one of the dumb****s who flew to Afghanistan without authorization durign the evacuation last year? This moron shouldn't be anywhere near a leadership position.

[RaceBoarder]

But what do all the MAGAts do once the Republicans start slamming on Trumpy?

That's the neat part!

They stick with Trump. Trump will claim that the R system is rigged. In the process he will tick off DeSantis' people. If Dump wins the primary, DeSantis' people no-show. If Dump loses (better scenario), he runs as an indie, with every vote for him being someone who would otherwise vote R. If a state is even the SLIGHTEST bit purple, this hands it to D's.

[burd]

That's the neat part!

They stick with Trump. Trump will claim that the R system is rigged. In the process he will tick off DeSantis' people. If Dump wins the primary, DeSantis' people no-show. If Dump loses (better scenario), he runs as an indie, with every vote for him being someone who would otherwise vote R. If a state is even the SLIGHTEST bit purple, this hands it to D's.

I have a hard time seeing Dump making a serious run if he doesn't get the nom. He's too afraid of losing again, and the writing on the wall will be pretty clear if he can't even get his party's support. His only option would be to become the face of the revolution. More likely he resorts to Pout and Spout from his Fla. HQ.

It would be cool, though, to see him campaign from prison on a work-release.

[French Rage]

He's too afraid of losing again,

That would be true if he were even able to conceive of the possibility that he actually lost, and past experience has not shown that to be so.

[RaceBoarder]

I have a hard time seeing Dump making a serious run if he doesn't get the nom. He's too afraid of losing again, and the writing on the wall will be pretty clear if he can't even get his party's support. His only option would be to become the face of the revolution. More likely he resorts to Pout and Spout from his Fla. HQ.

It would be cool, though, to see him campaign from prison on a work-release.

He'll just claim that the primary was "rigged" and that the R's want to muffle the voice of the REAL "Real Americans".

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Does the Roaring Fork valley have much of a permanent population nowadays?

I thought that was one of the first areas that cleared out the locals when the vacation economy moved towards it's current status in the late 90's.

My impression is that if you aren't independently wealthy or can't get into subsidized resort employee housing, you're living in Glenwood Springs and taking the bus 40 miles up-valley into Aspen every workday. For awhile Carbondale was an affordable alternative, but now even that has its own downtown and pricey real estate for people who can't afford Aspen but want to be adjacent.

[ScoobyDoo]

He has to run cause he figures that Garland won't go after him if he's running. Presidential Immunity BS. Garland is probably going to puss out on arresting him now that the election is over because of the run-off in Georgia. Which means Dump got another month reprieve.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Like I said, I think very few of us are equipped to handle it. We all came off the same conveyor belt. Certain speech acts are not permissible.

Young white females were always going to vote in huge numbers for Dems. But young white males did, also, when they could easily have followed middle aged and old white males into the clutches of the GOP.

Heroism is going above and beyond. We cannot be blind to what happened simply because of the wholly predictable unthinking backlash that will unleash. Once we realize that, and finally start responding to a changing reality with thought rather than predigested scripts, we will be able to actually deal with reality. In this instance, a reality which promises to save everyone.

That may be, but I'm not about to heap too much praise on white men. There's still a lot of derp out there, and we've gotten our kudos over the centuries that we've been in charge of the western world.

[Spartanforlife4]

Boebert seems a little too peachy this morning. Finally tweeting again after radio silence once states besides Florida started reporting. Maybe her camp got word the remaining votes are looking in her favor.

[rufus]

That's the neat part!

They stick with Trump. Trump will claim that the R system is rigged. In the process he will tick off DeSantis' people. If Dump wins the primary, DeSantis' people no-show. If Dump loses (better scenario), he runs as an indie, with every vote for him being someone who would otherwise vote R. If a state is even the SLIGHTEST bit purple, this hands it to D's.

I know. Gonna be good times.

You know Dumpy can't just take a back seat and keep his fat mouth shut.

[Handyman]

If dxs projection is right and it ends up 218-217 I think we might see McCarthy go apoplectic because (and yes I do honestly mean this) I think Biden can get a non-Trumper Rep to switch sides on certain issues. It won't be anything major mind you but enough to continue to show how good he actually is at his job.

Also, a one seat majority will likely kill MTGs coming "IM GUNA IMPEACH DA BIDEN!!1@" act.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

All youth voters were the heroes. That is why '24 is going to be a bloodbath for the GOP based on demos. The youth are highly motivated and have been since '18.

It's time for the Dems to skew leadership younger and phase put the Olds. Not Biden, he obviously gets to choose but they need younger faces in charge!

I'm a little worried about getting a bunch of 18-22 year-olds to see how Uncle Joe gets credit and to vote for an octogenarian who is old enough to remember segregation, but as long as they do then demographics will not favor the GOP any longer.

For the good of the party, I hope some of our fossilized Dems in Congress are convinced to retire in 2024, particularly in the Senate. Debbie Stabenow, I'm looking at you - you'll be 74 in 2024, it's time to hand over the reins. I can think of at least 3 MI women who should be in the running to take over her seat.