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  • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post

    The 4th Amendment has been null and void since 9/11. The police don't even need a warrant.

    The most unbelievable scene in Seven is when the cops need to manufacture an excuse to break down John Doe's door.
    Seven was before 9/11.

    But yes, I take your point.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

      Seven was before 9/11.

      But yes, I take your point.
      Even before 9/11 the police could get away with stuff. 9/11 just made it nationwide canon.

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      • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post

        The 4th Amendment has been null and void since 9/11. The police don't even need a warrant.

        The most unbelievable scene in Seven is when the cops need to manufacture an excuse to break down John Doe's door.
        The 4th Amendment began its emasculation with the war on drugs and all the exceptions to the warrant requirement. The automobile exceptions are just one line of cases illustrating the point.

        The war on drugs has been such a miserable failure on so many levels. More funds for prisons, badges, and guns and fewer for social workers and programs to help people with substance abuse and their families.
        Last edited by burd; 06-09-2022, 03:52 PM.

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        • Originally posted by burd View Post

          The 4th Amendment began its emasculation with the war on drugs and all the exceptions to the warrant requirement. The automobile exceptions are just one line of cases illustrating the point.

          The war on drugs has been such a miserable failure on so many levels. More funds for prisons, badges, and guns and fewer for social workers and programs to help people with substance abuse and their families.
          On the contrary. It is working exactly as intended.

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          • Originally posted by burd View Post

            The 4th Amendment began its emasculation with the war on drugs and all the exceptions to the warrant requirement. The automobile exceptions are just one line of cases illustrating the point.

            The war on drugs has been such a miserable failure on so many levels. More funds for prisons, badges, and guns and fewer for social workers and programs to help people with substance abuse and their families.
            Who gives a **** about families? Zygote's are where it's at.
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            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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            • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post

              On the contrary. It is working exactly as intended.
              Well, there's that.

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              • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post

                I have argued for years that the target wasn't Roe but Griswold. I was wrong. The target is Brown. It is only a matter of time before SCOTUS brings back Jim Crow. See also: Miranda, Obergefell, Gideon... Kiss them all goodbye.
                I don't think Griswold was a target preferred over Roe, though it certainly had a foundational role in Roe. To these folks, all minority rights are a threat, and they probably see it all as a house of cards.

                That's why they cannot come to terms with Marbury v. Madison and the concept that protecting the counter-majoritarian view (S. Ct.) has a value.
                Last edited by burd; 06-09-2022, 11:47 PM.

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                • Originally posted by burd View Post

                  I don't think Griswold was a target preferred over Roe, though it certainly had a foundational role in Roe. To these folks, all minority rights are a threat, and they probably see it all as a house of cards.

                  That's why they cannot come to terms with Marbury v. Madison and the concept that protecting the counter-majoritarian view (S. Ct.) has a value.
                  They care nothing for majorities. They can’t cope with any view other than White Christian Fascist Nationalism, regardless of the vote counts.
                  If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                  • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post

                    They care nothing for majorities. They can’t cope with any view other than White Christian Fascist Nationalism, regardless of the vote counts.
                    White christians are the only majority they've known or are willing to recognize.

                    The counter-majoritarian function comment was intended to refer to judicial review, as partly described in Marbury. Many on the right do not understand that just because Texas passes a law based on age-old prejudices does not mean the Supremes should not have the final say whether that law offends the constitution.

                    There, I've said it. Now don't question it.
                    Last edited by burd; 06-10-2022, 10:16 AM.

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                    • Thomas gets to be a Supreme Court Justice. Why? Cause, reasons.

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                      • There's sufficient evidence to impeach Thomas for sedition and Kavanaugh and Barrett for lying to Congress during their confirmation hearings. Replace 3 works just as well as +6. We're at a hinge moment for American democracy. Either we use legal means to save it or Bannon's "all hell breaks loose."
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                        • Looks like there will be a bunch of cases today. 29 to go heading into today. 3 out so far, just from Barrett and Sotomayor, so all the senior justices could still have some on the way.

                          Apparently they just release 1 every ten minutes these days, so next one will be out on the half hour.

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                          • 4th one out from Alito. Still none of the major cases, but still have potentially Roberts, Thomas, Breyer, and more Alito to go. There will be at least one more.

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                            • Last one of the day is by Thomas. Still nothing major. 24 to go in total. Next round will be released Wednesday.

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                              • Originally posted by unofan View Post
                                4th one out from Alito. Still none of the major cases, but still have potentially Roberts, Thomas, Breyer, and more Alito to go. There will be at least one more.
                                Seeing any trends? Lurch to the Right? Full on theocracy? Asking for a friend.
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