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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by psych View Post
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...north-carolina

    Millhiser from Vox thinks ACB will join Roberts and the liberals to block this theory. Let’s hope he’s right. I don’t think the take Kep posted is a good counterpoint.
    Apparently, G & K are in the tank on the nutbar theory, so everything I am reading says it's up to Barrett.

    Jesus. Think about that. The fate of democracy hangs on someone not up to presiding over The People's Court.

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  • psych
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    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...north-carolina

    Millhiser from Vox thinks ACB will join Roberts and the liberals to block this theory. Let’s hope he’s right. I don’t think the take Kep posted is a good counterpoint.

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  • Handyman
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    Doesn't that assume those Blue/Swing states would have the Dems in control of both houses in the Leg?

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  • Kepler
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    So, this is funny.

    And although it is the Republican-controlled legislature asking the Supreme Court to recognize a theory of near-complete power for state legislatures over federal elections, Princeton University professor Sam Wang suggests that a ruling for the legislature in this case would likely benefit Democrats more. Blue and swing states, Wang explains, have been more likely to check partisan gerrymandering through a governor’s veto, the state courts, or independent redistricting commissions. A decision in favor of the legislature, Wang says, would allow those blue and swing states to draw new maps that are more favorable to Democrats. The 19 states where Republicans already control redistricting have less to gain from the Supreme Court’s ruling, Wang concludes, because those states have already drawn maps to benefit Republicans.
    tldr: the Derp States are already cheating. If the Court finds for Moore, the civilized states can start cheating and the orcs can't stop them.

    Careful what you wish for.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    Oral argument about to start in the independent legislature theory case. You can listen here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

    Gotta assume Roberts sides with the liberals on something this wacky, so the question will be whether one or more of the other 5 GOPers is similarly skeptical.
    I think we can already say with certainty that Alito, Thomas, and Barrett will grab the knife, stick it into the Constitution, and start twisting. I hope to God it's 6-3 to keep our democracy, but who knows? These people are shameless.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    I think this means another right wing nut job judicial theory becomes law.

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  • psych
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Yikes.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by psych View Post

    From the little I've read, it'll come down* to ACB and Kavanaugh.
    Beer boy liked this back in 2000

    https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/16...4d3mhOGYhEZrFA

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Elie is right. It’s all about the 10th until suddenly it’s not

    https://twitter.com/elienyc/status/1...4d3mhOGYhEZrFA

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  • psych
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    Oral argument about to start in the independent legislature theory case. You can listen here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

    Gotta assume Roberts sides with the liberals on something this wacky, so the question will be whether one or more of the other 5 GOPers is similarly skeptical.
    From the little I've read, it'll come down* to ACB and Kavanaugh.

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  • unofan
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    Oral argument about to start in the independent legislature theory case. You can listen here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

    Gotta assume Roberts sides with the liberals on something this wacky, so the question will be whether one or more of the other 5 GOPers is similarly skeptical.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
    I don't want violence, but anti-bullying campaigns don't work. These people are killing my community and showing up in our safe places with assault rifles. The only way to stop them is to make them bleed.
    Throw them in a hole and throw the hole away. They are not worthy to be in a democracy.

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  • MissThundercat
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The United States isn't real, it is only its people. Most of its people do have a conscience, even if it is typically put to sleep by torpor or ideology or consumerism.

    The Right is an idea. Weak-minded and cowardly people are vulnerable to that idea. The idea has to die, as horribly and pathetically as possible. The people are still people. They are ends, not means, and we will not harm people as a means to killing the idea.

    That is the difference between us and them.
    I don't want violence, but anti-bullying campaigns don't work. These people are killing my community and showing up in our safe places with assault rifles. The only way to stop them is to make them bleed.

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  • Kepler
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    The United States isn't real, it is only its people. Most of its people do have a conscience, even if it is typically put to sleep by torpor or ideology or consumerism.

    The Right is an idea. Weak-minded and cowardly people are vulnerable to that idea. The idea has to die, as horribly and pathetically as possible. The people are still people. They are ends, not means, and we will not harm people as a means to killing the idea.

    That is the difference between us and them.

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  • MissThundercat
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    The American Right is going to have a lot to answer for to history.

    Republican Members, pundits, and even their weak minded amoral voters will enjoy the same reputation as Nazis twenty years hence. And like those cowards, they will prevaricate.

    These ****s are even more cowardly and incompetent than their racist ancestors of "The Cause" and "states' rights."

    End the Right
    Save the world
    You want to End The Right? Well then, let's END the right. And for nonviolence to work, your opponent has to have a conscience. The United States doesn't have one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOcimzsviFA

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