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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Dodgers continue to dominate this offseason. They sign Yamamoto to 12 years/325 million, the most money ever for a pitcher-only contract. And a $50 million posting fee to Orix in the NPB.
    Kill me.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    One billion in salary between those two. **** me.

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    Dodgers continue to dominate this offseason. They sign Yamamoto to 12 years/325 million, the most money ever for a pitcher-only contract. And a $50 million posting fee to Orix in the NPB.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Why are the Mariners shedding payroll and angering their fans?

    Because they’re having to completely take over their RSN.

    Turns out that WBD was footing the bill for production costs for the Mariners and Kraken and now the Mariners are going to be on the hook for those costs, plus rights fees they’ll have to pay to the Kraken and Trailblazers (which could be anywhere from $50 to $80 million dollars a year).

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  • Russell Jaslow
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    Yeah, it's sort of crazy. Between Ohtani, Betts and Freeman the Dodgers will owe something like $85-100 million per year to guys in 2034-2044, who will all be retired. Also some thought that Ohtani will see a tax benefit, since he presumably will no longer be in California, or even the U.S., when he starts getting paid, although I have literally no idea whether that is true or not, or will be true in 2034 when he starts getting paid.
    I'm pretty sure he will still have to pay U.S. taxes. But he won't have to pay California taxes, even if he lives somewhere else in the U.S.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Ohtani is deferring 68 million of his 70 per year. So the Dodgers open up 68 million in cash flow and the luxury tax calculation comes out to 46 million, so they’re saving 24 million in that regard.
    Yeah, it's sort of crazy. Between Ohtani, Betts and Freeman the Dodgers will owe something like $85-100 million per year to guys in 2034-2044, who will all be retired. Also some thought that Ohtani will see a tax benefit, since he presumably will no longer be in California, or even the U.S., when he starts getting paid, although I have literally no idea whether that is true or not, or will be true in 2034 when he starts getting paid.

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    Ohtani is deferring 68 million of his 70 per year. So the Dodgers open up 68 million in cash flow and the luxury tax calculation comes out to 46 million, so they’re saving 24 million in that regard.

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  • WeAreNDHockey
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    Originally posted by aparch View Post
    All they need to do is give him the Kershaw treatment.

    Pitch April and May. Feign an injury to keep him from pitching June, July, and a couple weeks in Augus. Voila! He can magically pitch again in September and October.
    Didn't help LA this year. I think Kershaw just got tagged for ANOTHER run by Arizona...

    LA more than likely got themselves a pig in a poke with Ohtani. My guess is they'll be lucky to get the equivalent of 3 seasons worth of pitching out of him. None at all of course in 2024, 2025 is not 100% assured but they'll probably get most of a season. Over the next 3 seasons he'll be hurt and won't pitch in one of them at all, and by 2029, with 5 seasons to go on the deal, he'll be a $70 million dollar DH. And that doesn't even take into consideration whether or not he won't suffer from some injury that limits his DHing.

    Ohtani will probably finally make a postseason. He'll also probably be part of another 100+ win team that totally chokes in the playoffs. Hell, LA might set a record for regular season wins in 2024. Won't matter. They'll crap out in the playoffs like normal.

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  • aparch
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    But it also might be a huge ****ing anchor. If he can't pitch.
    All they need to do is give him the Kershaw treatment.

    Pitch April and May. Feign an injury to keep him from pitching June, July, and a couple weeks in Augus. Voila! He can magically pitch again in September and October.

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  • Bronco
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    I think I agree with this assessment. There's also some degree of value to the franchise in terms of marketing alone. So like, it might even be 30+30+10.

    But it also might be a huge ****ing anchor. If he can't pitch.
    It is a risk, and he will likely not be as effective at year 7-10. He is still the best player in baseball assuming he comes back healthy from injury. I look back at the Miggy contract and I know it was terrible in the last 3 seasons, but that was the cost to get him at his prime, and it was well worth it even though the Tigers never won the world series.

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  • mookie1995
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    But it also might be a huge ****ing anchor. If he can't pitch.
    Magic can afford it :-0

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Bronco View Post
    35M for hitting and 35M for pitching. And he saves you a roster spot. Ohtani really is that special. Just wish he didn't go to the Yankees of the NL.
    I think I agree with this assessment. There's also some degree of value to the franchise in terms of marketing alone. So like, it might even be 30+30+10.

    But it also might be a huge ****ing anchor. If he can't pitch.

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  • Bronco
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    35M for hitting and 35M for pitching. And he saves you a roster spot. Ohtani really is that special. Just wish he didn't go to the Yankees of the NL.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Sounds like dodgers haven’t confirmed yet, and it might be due to needing physical.

    im sure it won’t be a repeat of Correa

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post

    Agreed. Most dynamic player since Ruth, but it’ll be a year before he can be a pitcher, so there’s 70M year 1 for a DH. Though there are evidently unprecedented deferrals in the deal so it won’t truly be 70M in cash. But if this isn’t just a one-time deal for a once in a century player and ends up raising salaries across the board, that’s going to create an interesting economy for a league losing its RSNs by next year for half the league. Better hope fans love paying for direct streaming or those OTA ads cash in.
    This comment makes me wonder what is gonna happen if a team truly does end up spending more than it brings in. Is it possible for a modern sports franchise to truly run itself out of business? I mean teams have been increasing their ability to print money, so where exactly is the ceiling?

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