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  • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
    The MPD was never defunded you blithering moron.
    So, the same folks who voted to defund them - resulting in entirely avoidable early retirements, defections and poor morale in the overall MPD ranks - complain bitterly that less cops can't keep up with entirely predictable increases in criminal activity.

    Like the Minneapolis City Council, you seem to be missing the forest for the trees, dumb-***.

    And no, I won't explain it to you, look it up yourself ... if you're civil next time, I'll explain politely.
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    • The defections and low morale occurred because the public finally had enough and started demanding that the MPD stop being thugs and do what they're supposed to do - serve and protect. Instead of stepping up and proving public perception to be wrong they showed to be cowards and walked away. You can't possibly blame that on a vote that's never once been enacted. Unless you're a blithering idiot looking to airways excuse bad behavior by authoritarians. Are you going to even try one here to post something logical, honest and sincere?

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      • All that was voted on was whether they could change the charter which was step one of a multi step process. City Council voted yes but Charter Commission voted no. There is no ballot initiative to disband or defund. We will see what happens going forwards.

        So yeah he can suck it.
        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
        -aparch

        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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        • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
          The defections and low morale occurred because the public finally had enough and started demanding that the MPD stop being thugs and do what they're supposed to do - serve and protect. Instead of stepping up and proving public perception to be wrong they showed to be cowards and walked away. You can't possibly blame that on a vote that's never once been enacted. Unless you're a blithering idiot looking to airways excuse bad behavior by authoritarians. Are you going to even try one here to post something logical, honest and sincere?
          I'm not certain this is necessarily a case where a bunch of MPD cops decided "well, if I can't be a thug, why bother being a cop." There has even been some suggestion that many recent departures have come from the ranks of "good cops," although I'm not really sure how that is determined.

          Who would want to be a cop right now? I certainly wouldn't, and I wouldn't encourage anyone I know to take that job. I'm sure there are a lot of those guys who have been good public servants who decided that now would be a good time to retire, rather than be associated with a group pilloried in the media and public on a daily basis.

          That's the thing. If the public and media want to take the position that cops are all racist thugs, that's who you're going to end up with serving on your force. Everyone else will quit, or will never join.

          Congrats.
          That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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          • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

            I'm not certain this is necessarily a case where a bunch of MPD cops decided "well, if I can't be a thug, why bother being a cop." There has even been some suggestion that many recent departures have come from the ranks of "good cops," although I'm not really sure how that is determined.

            Who would want to be a cop right now? I certainly wouldn't, and I wouldn't encourage anyone I know to take that job. I'm sure there are a lot of those guys who have been good public servants who decided that now would be a good time to retire, rather than be associated with a group pilloried in the media and public on a daily basis.

            That's the thing. If the public and media want to take the position that cops are all racist thugs, that's who you're going to end up with serving on your force. Everyone else will quit, or will never join.

            Congrats.
            Your concerned trolling is duly noted.

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            • You know there is an easy way to not look like you are a bunch of racist thugs...
              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
              -aparch

              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
              -INCH

              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                You know there is an easy way to not look like you are a bunch of racist thugs...
                There is. And many, many, many of them choose that way.

                But, as I said, when the public and media choose to paint with a broad brush, why would the good people stick around, or for that matter, join up?
                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                  There is. And many, many, many of them choose that way.

                  But, as I said, when the public and media choose to paint with a broad brush, why would the good people stick around, or for that matter, join up?
                  No they dont choose that way. See you assumed you knew what I was talking about but ya didn't.

                  See if there is legions of good, honest, non-racist thug cops you would think they would be doing everything they can to get rid of the cops who are. Best way to prove the existence of the "Good Apples" is to help get rid of the bad apples. They dont do that...and they certainly dont do that in Minneapolis. They get treated like pedophile priests by the Archdiocese...covered up or shuffled somewhere else. Their fellow officers turn a blind eye and defend defend defend. MPD has had a crap reputation since my dad was a kid (he is 72) and it isnt cause they are some persecuted group...its because they are corrupt as heck with race issues dating back decades.

                  Of course the same media you deride for painting cops as racist also have spent years telling us how tough a job being a cop is and how their life is in danger every time they pull someone over. Of course the actual stats never quite bear this out and they certainly dont this year where more have died of COVID than anything else. the media is as much to blame for the current state of policing as anyone by deifying them.
                  Last edited by Handyman; 09-21-2020, 10:29 AM.
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                  -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                  • The Department of Justice has declared NYC, Seattle and Portland as "Anarchist Jurisdictions".

                    This should go well...
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                    -aparch

                    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                    -INCH

                    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                    • No longer the Dept. Of Justice...
                      "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
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                      • This is a sideshow. Trump has already signaled how he plans to try and steal this thing - by declaring victory on election night regardless of the initial results, having GOP operatives futz with the mail-in ballots by fabricating a bunch of invalid ones to setup the fraud narrative, and then using the courts he stacked with his picks to rule that since there were too many "issues" with the mail-in ballots, only ballots filled out in-person at a polling station are valid.

                        A few members of Cult 45 showing up at the boundaries of polling locations to try and wave their penile enhancers at black & brown voters will just be a footnote for the news cycle.

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                        • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                          This is a sideshow. Trump has already signaled how he plans to try and steal this thing - by declaring victory on election night regardless of the initial results, having GOP operatives futz with the mail-in ballots by fabricating a bunch of invalid ones to setup the fraud narrative, and then using the courts he stacked with his picks to rule that since there were too many "issues" with the mail-in ballots, only ballots filled out in-person at a polling station are valid.

                          A few members of Cult 45 showing up at the boundaries of polling locations to try and wave their penile enhancers at black & brown voters will just be a footnote for the news cycle.
                          Yup. Keepin' it 100.

                          And then it's up to us and what we do. I suggest we don't buy anything. Anything. People can die and democracy can be overthrown, the 1% don't care. But hit their profits and heads will roll.
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                          • Fantastic post ...

                            Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                            I'm not certain this is necessarily a case where a bunch of MPD cops decided "well, if I can't be a thug, why bother being a cop." There has even been some suggestion that many recent departures have come from the ranks of "good cops," although I'm not really sure how that is determined.

                            Who would want to be a cop right now? I certainly wouldn't, and I wouldn't encourage anyone I know to take that job. I'm sure there are a lot of those guys who have been good public servants who decided that now would be a good time to retire, rather than be associated with a group pilloried in the media and public on a daily basis.

                            That's the thing. If the public and media want to take the position that cops are all racist thugs, that's who you're going to end up with serving on your force. Everyone else will quit, or will never join.

                            Congrats.
                            But slappy thinks this is "trolling". Let's review what slappy said to provoke such a "troll" ...

                            The defections and low morale occurred because the public finally had enough and started demanding that the MPD stop being thugs and do what they're supposed to do - serve and protect. Instead of stepping up and proving public perception to be wrong they showed to be cowards and walked away. You can't possibly blame that on a vote that's never once been enacted. Unless you're a blithering idiot looking to airways excuse bad behavior by authoritarians. Are you going to even try one here to post something logical, honest and sincere?

                            So let's walk you through a comparable scenario, slappy. I don't know what (if anything?) you do for work, but for today's example, let's make believe you're a mall cop/security guard at the Mall of America. You've been doing it for 10 years, and you're one of the senior guys on the MOA force. You've done a very good job, never had a major incident, received all the appropriate commendations, regular pay raises, and have earned a slew of promotions from starter assignments to more prominent ones deserving of your expertise.

                            But one day, at the opposite end of the Mall, some young kid new to the force encounters someone who has shoplifted while blasted out of his mind on Fentanyl. Despite his/her best efforts, the suspect ignores their attempts to control the situation, and eventually the unthinkable happens. And not only is it the top story locally, but the incident goes viral worldwide.

                            You come to work the next day, and folks are "protesting" the previous night's incident by trashing your Segway, burning storefronts near the Food Court, and threatening to take over your lunch room. Your colleague - who you don't even know and have never met - has his name all over the Internet, and not only are the locals "protesting", but now some out of town thugs from Portland, Seattle, etc. are adding to the mix. You fervently hope that the MOA management and its tenants - one of whom reported the initial shoplifting incident - will have your back personally, despite the fact that they've thrown your inexperienced colleague under the bus, and he is now facing capital murder charges. But that support isn't happening, and your perfect service record for the company and the MOA now means as much as the final goal in a 7-1 blowout loss, with "protesting" customers looking to peg frozen water bottles off your head for kicks and giggles.

                            You'd have to have a huge issue with self-esteem (self-loathing?) to continue to subject yourself willingly to that situation, which you know you 100% have nothing to do with. You have skills and experience that can continue to do this kind of work in another setting where your efforts might once again be appreciated. You know you really can't trust your current client fully anymore, since you now know they do not have your back when things get tough.

                            Your morale would be in the dumpster too, and you'd look for a way out. You don't deserve this crap.

                            So, now it's your turn. Feel free to provide a "logical, honest and sincere" counterpoint.

                            And no, dismissing this as "trolling" (like you did with SJHovey) isn't any of those ...
                            Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
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                            • https://twitter.com/KrisGoodnews/sta...39919257276416

                              Interim Chief of Police Robert Schroeder has declared a state of emergency for LMPD ahead of the AG’s announcement on the #BreonnaTaylor case
                              That can't be good...
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

                              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                              • So in other words, expect Louisville to be added to the "Anarchist Jurisdictions" list in a few days. Which will also ensure Rich Mitch wins by 20 again.

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