Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

[Slap Shot]

b. During unannounced entry search warrants, MPD officers shall announce themselves as “Police” and announce their purpose as “Search Warrant” prior to crossing the threshold of the door into the residence or building

Watch the video - you can hear them plain as day as they're starting their way in. You're not going to make an argument against them because they timed their announcement off by half a second.

FTR I am not in the defend cops at all costs lot. It's been a long time but I've argued with Brent/Rube here several times over on matters of the police and you likely recall his stance on pretty much everything cop related.

I think no-knock warrants are bull****. I am sure better planning could have led to a non-violent and non-lethal confrontation in this matter. They should have waited a second more to make their entry but you can hear them say they are cops several times very clearly and he still pointed a gun at them. What we need is sane conversation about reform not shrieking.

[WeAreNDHockey]

You want to know the fastest way to get rid of no-knock warrants? If enough cops get killed trying to serve them. Other than that, this will continue to happen. If enough of them get shot in the course of kicking in a few doors, regardless of whether or not the person on the other side of the door is a criminal, the cops will decide no-knock warrants are simply a little too dangerous part of their oh-so-dangerous jobs.

Look at the way they handled the Las Vegas mass shooter. He had already killed 60 people, shot a couple hundred more, and was dead by his own hand for 30 minutes by the time the cops made their way into his hotel room. If that wasn't a door that needed to be immediately breached then please explain to me the logic in breaking into Amir Locke's door like they did. And please don't tell me about the potential danger they may have faced in Las Vegas. That's their ****ing job.

[LynahFan]

So delicious to see the "I can do anything with my gun!" crowd go toe-to-toe with the "Police never do anything wrong!" crowd.

[jerphisch]

From your link:

b. During unannounced entry search warrants, MPD officers shall announce themselves as “Police” and announce their purpose as “Search Warrant” prior to crossing the threshold of the door into the residence or building

[state of hockey]

"Dynamic entry" warrants lol.

[Slap Shot]

Local not state

From your link:

High-risk warrants (P&P 9-302and P&P 9-303) may involve immediate entry or “unannounced entry.” Unannounced entry search warrants authorize officers to enter the specified premises without first knocking and announcing their presence or purpose prior to entering. The judge issuing the warrant indicates whether the warrant permits that type of entry, based on the case details.

[jerphisch]

Hmm.

Local not state

[Slap Shot]

Announce BEFORE entering. As of Aug 2020 "Officers will now be required to announce their presence and purpose before entering, except in certain circumstances like hostage situations..."

Hmm.

Subd. 2.Definition.

For the purposes of this section, "no-knock search warrant" means a search warrant authorizing peace officers to enter certain premises without first knocking and announcing the officer's presence or purpose prior to entering the premises. No-knock search warrants may also be referred to as dynamic entry warrants.

Again to me they should never be used and this is an effed up situation.

[jerphisch]

What rules did they break on a no-knock warrant?

For the record this is a terrible look and no-knock warrants IMHO are bull**** and should be disallowed.

Announce BEFORE entering. As of Aug 2020 "Officers will now be required to announce their presence and purpose before entering, except in certain circumstances like hostage situations..."

[Handyman]

What rules did they break on a no-knock warrant?

For the record this is a terrible look and no-knock warrants IMHO are bull**** and should be disallowed.

You dont announce as you enter you have to make it clear you are coming in before. Now admittedly I won't watch the video (I dont watch snuff films) but everyone I know who has has said it is not clear they did that. Not to mention the kid was asleep when they broke in so even if they did announce he never heard it. Plus how long is the entire interaction?

To be honest though I don't even care about that (I know you were in the midst of a convo about it) my concern is why did any of this happen? Why is an innocent person dead and why, even now, has MPD not learned their lesson? They literally had the entire world ****ing protesting them and their actions and outcomes and they do this? They are under massive scrutiny and they still have itchy trigger fingers.

Oh and then there is this: https://twitter.com/kare11/status/1489623634113093636

BREAKING: St. Paul police did not request a 'no-knock' warrant in MPD raid that led to Amir Locke's death and @MinneapolisPD insisted warrant be changed to 'no-knock,' sources tell KARE 11's @ajinvestigates

[Handyman]

It's a small item, and ultimately immaterial, but what I read is that he didn't have a license for the gun. But you don't need one in a private residence, hence the reason he was possessing it legally.

Good point, I mis-read that.

[Slap Shot]

So? What is it people like to say....oh yeah, they should have followed the rules.

What rules did they break on a no-knock warrant?

For the record this is a terrible look and no-knock warrants IMHO are bull**** and should be disallowed.

[jerphisch]

Here's some more racist twats, but at least they managed to not kill the guy I guess?
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/02/0..._medium=social

The best part is you can tell the guys from the truck are lying by the literal first words out of their mouth...

[SJHovey]

And he had a license for the gun. But he probably jaywalked once so he deserved it.

It's a small item, and ultimately immaterial, but what I read is that he didn't have a license for the gun. But you don't need one in a private residence, hence the reason he was possessing it legally.

[jerphisch]

The cops clearly announced even if it was after entry. You can hear them say it multiple times.

So? What is it people like to say....oh yeah, they should have followed the rules.

Is it true per some comments he pointed his gun at them?

They say the murderer was just out of the frame and who he pointed it at, guess we'll find out if they release his bodycam footage.

This is all spoken as if you've never had the popo break into your place while you sleep and come at you with with their guns drawn, what a luxury to not have to process that in a few seconds and make the all the right choices.