Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

[SJHovey]

An officer demanding you exit your vehicle is not a de facto lawful command. There are criteria that must be met and in this incident I haven't fully seen if that is the case.

I think that once the cops pull you over for a lawful reason that they can command that you get out of the car. So, if they pull you over for expired tabs or failing to signal or engaging in suspicious activity like going in and leaving a known drug house when you have drug offenses on your record, I think you have to get out. I think the courts have said the for reasons such as an officer's safety such a command is lawful.

[SJHovey]

Jesus hovey.

Explain how I'm wrong. If some people at Boeing cut corners and planes start falling out of the sky, do we blame Lynah, who is involved in designing aircraft? Should we declare as public pariahs every civil engineer once the I-35 bridge collapsed? You guys have, without a second thought, declared "cops" as public enemy number one when the vast majority of them are ordinary citizens doing excellent work in what can be a dangerous job.

And you wonder why good people don't want that job.

[Jimjamesak]

when the vast majority of them are ordinary citizens doing excellent work in what can be a dangerous job.

The evidence suggests otherwise.

[First Time, Long Time]

No, the general disdain for the cops has been created by you and other social media warriors. When a bad cop acts badly, and you use that to paint policing in general as bad (which has been done extensively for years now), you create that disdain. The effect is a lack of respect of, and open hostility towards, law enforcement, and an emboldening of actions by people like this clown in Ohio. That leads to good people bailing out of the service, or declining to apply, which leads to a lower quality of candidate, worsening the problem.

Honestly, along with the delegitimizing of our courts, it is something that you, or your children, are going to come to regret.

What the ever loving **** is wrong with you?

[ScoobyDoo]

Explain how I'm wrong. If some people at Boeing cut corners and planes start falling out of the sky, do we blame Lynah, who is involved in designing aircraft? Should we declare as public pariahs every civil engineer once the I-35 bridge collapsed? You guys have, without a second thought, declared "cops" as public enemy number one when the vast majority of them are ordinary citizens doing excellent work in what can be a dangerous job.

And you wonder why good people don't want that job.

It wasn't the left political party that systematically destroyed the government oversight for everything. Including the cops. You want systems in place to hold the right people accountable? Fix the government. The Government that has been completely dismantled since Reagan said the worst thing you could ever hear as an American is, ""I'm from the Government and I'm here to help.".

Well, you reap what you sow. And every ****ing Republican since 1980 has been reaping this **** show we have now.

[Handyman]

I actually agree with him that social media has helped drum up disdain for the police. We disagree that it has been unwarranted or is a bad thing.

Good point. If not for those Social Media Warriors taking videos cops would still be respected despite what they do.

The UND contingent has gone over the cliff...

[WeAreNDHockey]

Anything Hovey says

I know why people take offense and exception to some of the things I post. They are over the top, or repetitive, or downright crazy sometimes. But the difference between you and me is I know that about myself. I'd hate to go through life and be so completely clueless as to how wrong some of the things I think or say really is. You have no idea just how wrong most of what you post it.

Frankly I don't know why some of the sane posters here defend you. You come off as reasoned and low key, traits that I think are generally admirable. But to me you are just a clueless victim of your own privilege and are like most people nowadays in that you are 100% unwilling to admit that some of the beliefs and ideals you were probably raised on are completely wrong. In real life you probably are a nice guy and maybe a good neighbor. Here, I just don't see that.

[Handyman]

And here I thought since cops had the ability to deny us our liberty they should be held to the highest of standards. Apparently I was wrong and they should have almost no scrutiny cause it will hurt their fragile egos.

I mean they have a tough job...life is hardsticking your knee in the back of neuroendocrine!

Meanwhile more copsdie of COVID than violence by perps and the dickless cowards are whining like children about mandates. They can ****ing quit they suck at their job anyways.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

What the ever loving **** is wrong with you?

Copsuckers gonna suck and suck hard. That's what.

[St. Clown]

I actually agree with him that social media has helped drum up disdain for the police. We disagree that it has been unwarranted or is a bad thing.

Social media has allows the affected people to shine the bright light of truth on what’s actually happening. A few years ago I sincerely believed these abuses were rare.

[SJHovey]

Social media has allows the affected people to shine the bright light of truth on what’s actually happening. A few years ago I sincerely believed these abuses were rare.

Ok. Fair enough. I think there are somewhere around 700,000 law enforcement officers in this country. How many of them are truly bad? How many of them are like Derek Chauvin?

[Jimjamesak]

Ok. Fair enough. I think there are somewhere around 700,000 law enforcement officers in this country. How many of them are truly bad? How many of them are like Derek Chauvin?

How many of them sat by and did nothing while abuses went on?

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

How many of them sat by and did nothing while abuses went on?

Most of them, because their continued employment depends on their silence and backing their coworkers no matter what they do.

[dxmnkd316]

Ok. Fair enough. I think there are somewhere around 700,000 law enforcement officers in this country. How many of them are truly bad? How many of them are like Derek Chauvin?

Irrelevant. As an armed tool of the state, they should be held to an extremely high standard. So far, they have not been. Quite the opposite, really.

[Slap Shot]

I think that once the cops pull you over for a lawful reason that they can command that you get out of the car.

Don't think. Know.