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  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    I wasn't trying to pretend anything. Just pointing out that you guys are incorrect. No cop got shot. No cop got beaten to death. I realize that real facts don't matter to the circle jerk club, but I tend to think they're important.
    So just downplay the fact that cops were beaten- awesome. That's a fact. Downplay the fact that cops were pepper sprayed- that's a fact, too. And the reactions to both were completely different than had the people were black, unless you are trying to deny the peaceful protests for BLM that happened in the summer that turned confrontational.

    Calling people part of the circle jerk club REALLY emphasizes that you are who you are. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Sucks that your boy got convicted, but just for you.

    Edit BTW, while Sicknick's death was judged to be a stroke, two men have been charged with assaulting him with an unknown spray- https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...a6d_story.html If you want to think that this had no effect on a healthy cop who oddly died from a stroke, I have a bridge to sell you in New York. Let alone if a black guy did that, he'd be dead before being charged.
    Last edited by MichVandal; 04-21-2021, 02:28 PM.

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    • Originally posted by unofan View Post

      Maybe in Hollywood, but not in real life. I would dare say an Olympic gold medalist couldn't do that with any certainty, let alone your average cop.
      I recall looking up a stat when there was a big issue in NYC, when the NYPD shot almost 100 rounds at a guy and only landed like 8 hits. I looked up some stats, and NYPD happens to keep stats on shots fired vs hits on target. They averaged close to 6% accuracy in the field vs around 90% on the shooting range.
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      • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

        I wasn't trying to pretend anything. Just pointing out that you guys are incorrect. No cop got shot. No cop got beaten to death. I realize that real facts don't matter to the circle jerk club, but I tend to think they're important.
        1) The autopsy came out like 2 days ago...but sure pretend you knew all along.
        2) Would Officer Sicknick be alive if not for 1/6? And before you go pedantic on the bit because apparently you think being snarky means you are smart or something give odds since we cant honestly know anything.
        3) Do you think being an *** makes you any better than the rest of us? Because honestly it just makes you an ***.

        But for the sake of honesty I did not know the autopsy ruled otherwise but as such I admit my statement was incorrect. Officer Sicknick died of "natural causes" because he had 2 strokes. Now I would argue those strokes were likely caused because of the riot (or whatever your pedantic snark is gonna call it) but at least in the article I read in WaPo the examiner did not specify that just said he died of the strokes and not allergic reactions to the bear spray. Also no medical history has been released so we have no clue if he has pre-existing conditions. So based on what we know now I will still blame the [insert pedantic word for rioters] for what happened just as I will blame people who died of respiratory problems stemming from COVID on COVID and blame the people who die of stuff like Pneumocystis on whatever destroyed their immune system. (often AIDS) YMMV.
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        • Jesus you guys are tender.

          alfa writes a post in which he says "a cop got shot during the capitol riots." I simply pointed out that his statement was incorrect.

          Handy then apparently decides to double down and publishes a post in which he spends most of his time insulting me, but then states (erroneously, again) that a cop was beaten to death on January 6.

          And now, again, come the insults.

          If you guys are happy writing posts in which you make factual assertions that are clearly erroneous, fine by me. I won't correct them anymore. It's not my job to keep people here from looking stupid.
          That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

            1) The autopsy came out like 2 days ago...but sure pretend you knew all along.
            2) Would Officer Sicknick be alive if not for 1/6? And before you go pedantic on the bit because apparently you think being snarky means you are smart or something give odds since we cant honestly know anything.
            3) Do you think being an *** makes you any better than the rest of us? Because honestly it just makes you an ***.

            But for the sake of honesty I did not know the autopsy ruled otherwise but as such I admit my statement was incorrect. Officer Sicknick died of "natural causes" because he had 2 strokes. Now I would argue those strokes were likely caused because of the riot (or whatever your pedantic snark is gonna call it) but at least in the article I read in WaPo the examiner did not specify that just said he died of the strokes and not allergic reactions to the bear spray. Also no medical history has been released so we have no clue if he has pre-existing conditions. So based on what we know now I will still blame the [insert pedantic word for rioters] for what happened just as I will blame people who died of respiratory problems stemming from COVID on COVID and blame the people who die of stuff like Pneumocystis on whatever destroyed their immune system. (often AIDS) YMMV.
            I'm not even talking about Sicknick. I have no idea what he really died from, or what may have triggered it.

            Again, what I do know is, a) no cop got shot at the capitol riot like alfa claimed, and b) no cop got crushed to death at the capitol riot like you claimed.
            That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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            • I am beyond relieved that this murderous monster was convicted, and it's further helped out the (not so co-)vertly racist among us.

              Tucker has been preaching the white replacement nonsense for weeks (or longer?), the fact that he's very bent out of shape when a white cop is held accountable for murdering a black man is just more evidence that he is, in fact, an overt racist.

              **** Tucker Carlson.
              I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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              • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                I'm not even talking about Sicknick. I have no idea what he really died from, or what may have triggered it.

                Again, what I do know is, a) no cop got shot at the capitol riot like alfa claimed, and b) no cop got crushed to death at the capitol riot like you claimed.
                No. Just Bear Sprayed and another crushed but not dead. Likely died from the Spray. Seems logical to me. I doubt they test Bear Spray on humans so they probably don't know much about it yet.

                Everyone who breached the Capital should be convicted of Treason and given the Death Penalty. This includes our former President. But, we don't do that anymore. We prefer to shoot African Americans at traffic stops.
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                • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                  Jesus you guys are tender.

                  alfa writes a post in which he says "a cop got shot during the capitol riots." I simply pointed out that his statement was incorrect.

                  Handy then apparently decides to double down and publishes a post in which he spends most of his time insulting me, but then states (erroneously, again) that a cop was beaten to death on January 6.

                  And now, again, come the insults.

                  If you guys are happy writing posts in which you make factual assertions that are clearly erroneous, fine by me. I won't correct them anymore. It's not my job to keep people here from looking stupid.
                  I never said a cop got shot, I said he got beaten to death. If you are going to point out an incorrect statement, at least be accurate.

                  Duh.

                  And a cop WAS assaulted, and later died- and that death is still quite questionable. So it's still quite likely that a cop died due to an assault. Saying that it's factually wrong is factually incomplete. Just sayin.

                  But the greater POINT was that all of these assaults (and there are so far 40 charged of assaulting cops) were met with pretty tame responses relative to simple stops that lead to deaths of black people. You could at least recognize that there is a clear and obvious difference. Instead, you pretend to care about accuracy, which may not even be incorrect in the first place- we will see.

                  The fact that you miss the latter is why you are getting insulted. Too bad you can't see that.

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                  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                    I'm not even talking about Sicknick. I have no idea what he really died from, or what may have triggered it.

                    Again, what I do know is, a) no cop got shot at the capitol riot like alfa claimed, and b) no cop got crushed to death at the capitol riot like you claimed.
                    Again, I didn't say a cop got shot.

                    A cop did die, probably from being assaulted. Cops did get set to the hospital from getting beaten up by various ways, and so far 40 people have been charged.

                    Compare that to the response to BLM protests, or any recent stop that has lead to a death. That's my point, and it's too bad you continue to see that.

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                    • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

                      Again, I didn't say a cop got shot.

                      A cop did die, probably from being assaulted. Cops did get set to the hospital from getting beaten up by various ways, and so far 40 people have been charged.

                      Compare that to the response to BLM protests, or any recent stop that has lead to a death. That's my point, and it's too bad you continue to see that.
                      A cop was beaten to death, that was it. But again, no cop was beaten to death.

                      I'm not talking about BLM protests or anything else. I didn't respond to the rest of your post, critically or otherwise. I had no objection to it. But let's not base it on false premises that a cop was beaten to death or crushed or anything else other than assaulted during the January 6 riot.
                      That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                      • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                        A cop was beaten to death, that was it. But again, no cop was beaten to death.

                        I'm not talking about BLM protests or anything else. I didn't respond to the rest of your post, critically or otherwise. I had no objection to it. But let's not base it on false premises that a cop was beaten to death or crushed or anything else other than assaulted during the January 6 riot.
                        Do you honestly see a difference between assaulted and dying a being beaten to death? Dead is dead, and it was intentional.

                        At this point, it's still an open question if Sicknick died from being assaulted or not. And if you are not aware of Sicknick, then how can you correct things?

                        And cops were, in fact, beaten- by a hockey stick, by a flag pole, and I'm sure there have been other creative ones among the 40 so far charged.

                        In the context of THIS thread, the comparison to BLM or black people getting pulled over is the important point. You don't seem to care about that.

                        edit- I corrected my post- happy now??? No matter how you "correct facts" there's a very, very different response to black people and white people. That's a fact.
                        Last edited by MichVandal; 04-21-2021, 03:48 PM.

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                        • Because I can't face the derp: how is FascistTV covering the Chauvin verdict? I figure they have 3 possible ways to go:

                          (1) Mistrial! Communist Terrorist Maxine!!! (The process path -- C for effort)

                          (2) This was one bad apple and see, the system works! Now get back in the cotton fields and shut up! (The what's the big deal? path -- B for effort)

                          (3) See, we warned you about Replacement!!! Biden wants to criminalize being white! (The full on white supremacy path -- A as in Aryan)
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Because I can't face the derp: how is FascistTV covering the Chauvin verdict? I figure they have 3 possible ways to go:

                            (1) Mistrial! Communist Terrorist Maxine!!! (The process path -- C for effort)

                            (2) This was one bad apple and see, the system works! Now get back in the cotton fields and shut up! (The what's the big deal? path -- B for effort)

                            (3) See, we warned you about Replacement!!! Biden wants to criminalize being white! (The full on white supremacy path -- A as in Aryan)
                            From what I can tell, it's mainly 2 with some 3 sprinkled in to keep the base riled up.

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                            • Tucker was A for Aryan for sure. My GF turned it on after the verdict (I refuse) and said the "news" people were closer to #2.

                              I would assume OAN blamed it on Dominion Voting Machines and Newsmaxx said it was actually Jewish Space Lasers that killed him in-between them reading the morning announcements and giving out the days lunch menu.
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                              • Cop was also crushed, pinned against a doorway by a wall of Hovey's Heroes with police shields, about six or seven deep heaving and ho'ing against him.

                                But, you know, no harm, no foul.
                                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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