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  • #16
    Some good racing happened this weekend- Iowa on Friday was a pretty fun race to watch, Saturday was ok.

    F1 is pretty interesting, even if the racing isn't. It's been noted that Ferrari's cheating (lets not beat around the bush here) prompted Mercedes to really work on their engine, which is now more powerful than ever. And this is the engine to go into the new era with very few changes. On top of that, they have also addressed some of the high speed stability in the car. The result is that Mercedes is even more dominating than they have been before- 1.2s to Max in 3rd on the grid. Holy cow.

    The Red Bull looks REALLY unstable and hard to drive. And I'm sure before they admit that, Albon will be the next sacrifice vs a more robust car.

    Ferrari is just slow- no power, no aero, no nothing.

    Racing Point is filling in nicely for them at the front of the grid. And I'm totally ok with their copy of last year's Merc. IMHO, it's embarrassing for the rest of the field to not be able to close on LAST YEAR's car that a photocopy of it is faster than they are.

    Renault is doing a great job confirming Danny Ric's move to McLaren. And McLaren is also showing the same thing- which is really cool.

    Williams looks much better in qualifying, but, sadly, the same in the race. Progress is progress, though.

    AT, yea. AR- no. Haas- got lucky, but penalized.

    I actually feel bad for Haas, as they buy so much from Ferrari that they are forced to follow a flawed concept and also gets a much less powerful engine.

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    • #17
      You have to give it to Red Bull though. To rebuild that suspension in 20 minutes and make it in by mere seconds is impressive. I think McLaren is who might be challenging the others. At least I can hope right. I'm not a fan of Racing Point copying something where they would have to have the drawings to make it. At some point don't they have to build something of their own? I would sure like to see Williams actually compete in a race at some point. Right now I'm hoping for rain from here on.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
        You have to give it to Red Bull though. To rebuild that suspension in 20 minutes and make it in by mere seconds is impressive. I think McLaren is who might be challenging the others. At least I can hope right. I'm not a fan of Racing Point copying something where they would have to have the drawings to make it. At some point don't they have to build something of their own? I would sure like to see Williams actually compete in a race at some point. Right now I'm hoping for rain from here on.
        Racing Point did their entire car with the FIA looking over their shoulder- so that they could make the copy showing that they made the drawings themselves. Probably from very good pictures. I don't see a problem with copying- when you are in a big hole, copy the best, and then develop from there. It's not as if nobody else copies- just not to the same obvious level.

        IMHO, it's better than what Haas does, who gets more drawings from Ferrari, since they get more stuff from the red team. Once you see the drawings, you can't just forget and ignore them. And Haas has looked very much like last years Ferrari, as well (in the past).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by alfablue View Post
          The Red Bull looks REALLY unstable and hard to drive. And I'm sure before they admit that, Albon will be the next sacrifice vs a more robust car.
          Which would tick me off. And who would they get? There's nobody in the pipeline, especially to throw right into the main team. Promoting past failures is ridiculous.

          Unless they go the Vettel route, but I don't see that happening. Perez? If they really want to go outside their stable, that's a very good possibility.

          Ferrari is just slow- no power, no aero, no nothing.
          Well, they do have good drivers. That's it.

          IMHO, it's embarrassing for the rest of the field to not be able to close on LAST YEAR's car that a photocopy of it is faster than they are.
          That's really sad when you put it that way...
          Last edited by Russell Jaslow; 07-21-2020, 04:14 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
            I'm not a fan of Racing Point copying something where they would have to have the drawings to make it. At some point don't they have to build something of their own?
            They have to design and build all the listed parts themselves. Which is why Renault specifically protested the brake ducts, as they were put on the listed parts list just this year, and you can't just take a picture of it and know how the inside looks. There could be some interesting "loophole" arguments in the next few weeks...

            As for liking or not liking what they did (remember when everyone got all boiled up over what Haas did to get into F1?), they followed the rules. And as Adrian Newey so famously and correctly once said, "There is no such thing as the spirit of the regulations. There are only the regulations."
            Russell Jaslow
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            U.S. College Hockey Online

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            • #21
              If you haven't read "How to Build a Car" by Adrain Newey, you should, it's great. I'd say the Red Bull has always been pretty touchy. The high rake is a result of the upright design, which is unique, but it makes it more touchy to drive.. Their cars have typically always had high limits. It's just is very easy to go past them, witness Gasly being unable to do it last year. They could probably alter the set up to make it more forgiving, but it would also be slower if they did that. Right now I'd bet they are trying to figure out why it's doing it more now vs not doing it as much last season.
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              • #22
                Jimmie Johnson tested an indycar on the Indy road course yesterday. Sounds like he’ll race 12 indycar races next year and now may be considering the 500.

                now that would be pretty cool!


                btw. Gd this site is a mess to look at and locate anything. Bring back the old format stat.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
                  If you haven't read "How to Build a Car" by Adrain Newey, you should, it's great. I'd say the Red Bull has always been pretty touchy. The high rake is a result of the upright design, which is unique, but it makes it more touchy to drive.. Their cars have typically always had high limits. It's just is very easy to go past them, witness Gasly being unable to do it last year. They could probably alter the set up to make it more forgiving, but it would also be slower if they did that. Right now I'd bet they are trying to figure out why it's doing it more now vs not doing it as much last season.
                  Over time, I've lost a lot of curiosity of Newey. He's the poster child of having one person with the vision of making a car- and many teams not only follow that example, they blatantly copy his concepts.

                  Then Toto Wolf comes along and takes over Mercedes. Other than provide a vision to the team, he has not direct input on the car. There's no "one vision" at Mercedes, it's a very strong team. And while they may take some ideas from Newey, their car is very much not his. And it's won every single available championship since 2014, and probably will this year and next year as well.

                  Sure, Mercedes started with a powertain advantage, but even when other teams closed on that, Wolf drove the team to go even farther. They address weak spots with less compromise than others- and this year is a great example of that- they made the car faster overall, when the Red Bull is harder to drive in certain areas to get it faster in slow corners. Every year, one would think that Mercedes has the least to gain, as they are so fast, and every year, they make steps that are as large or larger than other teams.

                  I may never actually get a Mercedes, as I've never liked them as a car. But as a team, I'm a huge fan of what they do.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                    Jimmie Johnson tested an indycar on the Indy road course yesterday. Sounds like he’ll race 12 indycar races next year and now may be considering the 500.
                    Where did you see that? Nobody has said anything about what he might do next year. The only quote from Johnson I've seen is he would like to put something together, but it might not be for 2021. And he admits he has to first find some sponsorship.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

                      Where did you see that? Nobody has said anything about what he might do next year. The only quote from Johnson I've seen is he would like to put something together, but it might not be for 2021. And he admits he has to first find some sponsorship.
                      Robin Miller. There’s no signed contract to discuss but it’s been an open secret 2021 he wants to race the road courses and now he’s changing his tune on Indy.

                      he will race indycar 1-2 times this year iirc
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                      "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                      "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                      Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                      • #26
                        And he did quite well in the virtual series earlier and was pretty enthusiastic about it. I think it would be great to see him. I'd also like to see Robert Wickens back in a car.
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                        • #27
                          Sergio Perez tests positive for COVID- and will miss both races at Silverstone. Stuck in his hotel room by himself for at least 10 days.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                            Sergio Perez tests positive for COVID- and will miss both races at Silverstone. Stuck in his hotel room by himself for at least 10 days.
                            That rule used to be seven days. They just changed it to 10 this week before Perez tested positive.
                            Russell Jaslow
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                            • #29
                              And Nico Hulkenburg got the open seat. Looks reasonably strong in P2.

                              Can you imagine what happens if he finishes 3rd Sunday? First podium as a replacement?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                                And Nico Hulkenburg got the open seat. Looks reasonably strong in P2.

                                Can you imagine what happens if he finishes 3rd Sunday? First podium as a replacement?
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