Covfefe-19 The 11th Part: Suck It Up And Die Grandpa I Need A Manicure!!

[geezer]

Bolsonaro (Brazil's prez) is laid up with the Rona. KARMA... I mean, thoughts and prayers.

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1280524823576395779

"Breaking News: President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil has tested positive for the coronavirus after months of dismissing its seriousness. More than 65,000 Brazilians have died."

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1280537569185366019

"South Dakota governor flew with Trump on Air Force One after being exposed to coronavirus: report http://hill.cm/zRAibCE"

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1280537077558456320

"Forty-three hospital ICUs in 21 Florida counties have hit capacity and show zero beds available, according to the latest data."

Hannity was right we all owe DeSantis an apology. He definitely did it right.

edit: I see the TrumpBots are out and saying stuff like "ICUs are at 85-95% capacity normally" and "they arent all COVID cases". They also seem to not grasp that while it is great the death rate is (allegedly) falling death is not the only outcome of this disease.

[alfablue]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1280537077558456320

"Forty-three hospital ICUs in 21 Florida counties have hit capacity and show zero beds available, according to the latest data."

Hannity was right we all owe DeSantis an apology. He definitely did it right.

edit: I see the TrumpBots are out and saying stuff like "ICUs are at 85-95% capacity normally" and "they arent all COVID cases". They also seem to not grasp that while it is great the death rate is (allegedly) falling death is not the only outcome of this disease.

The other thing that they won't accept is that this is the two week delay from the massive increase in cases to them showing up in hospitals. Which means this is between the 13k/week and the 23k/week times of 3 and two weeks ago. Just wait until we get to the 50k/week that has been seen for two weeks now.

Also, the 85-95% capacity is that way only because someone thinks we should be making tons of money on sick people. If this were closer to the NHS, then the number of available beds would better reflect the ability to deal with pandemics. I really wonder how many beds we had over the decades relative to the population. The more we've lean toward for-profit hospitals, the less care we've all been able to get. Part of that are the rural hospitals that have closed because they didn't make money.

Why must EVERYTHING we do be a profit center? Why can't we just take care of people and break even- making sure that the people supplying the care are properly compensated for? I'm fine with skilled doctors making hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'm not for the manager of the hospital, moreso for the shareholders.

[rufus]

But shareholders are the economic engine of the country.

And by economic engine, I mean, the 1%.

[jerphisch]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1280537077558456320

"Forty-three hospital ICUs in 21 Florida counties have hit capacity and show zero beds available, according to the latest data."

Hannity was right we all owe DeSantis an apology. He definitely did it right.

edit: I see the TrumpBots are out and saying stuff like "ICUs are at 85-95% capacity normally" and "they arent all COVID cases". They also seem to not grasp that while it is great the death rate is (allegedly) falling death is not the only outcome of this disease.

I don't think there is anything alleged about the death rate dropping. It is not sneaking up on anyone with a functioning brain anymore. March and April we were woefully unprepared. Now those most vulnerable are doing a better job protecting themselves, and long term care facilities are more prepared/being more careful. It is no less deadly, just affecting a less fragile part of the population right now. Jeb likes to throw out the avg age of those that have died, I'd love to see that by week. Are the lower deaths we're seeing now also lower ages? If anything that would make it worse, not better. Throwing allegedly in there just takes away from an otherwise good point. Not that anyone here doesn't either already agree or will never agree anyway....

[Jeb2020]

I don't think there is anything alleged about the death rate dropping. It is not sneaking up on anyone with a functioning brain anymore. March and April we were woefully unprepared. Now those most vulnerable are doing a better job protecting themselves, and long term care facilities are more prepared/being more careful. It is no less deadly, just affecting a less fragile part of the population right now. Jeb likes to throw out the avg age of those that have died, I'd love to see that by week. Are the lower deaths we're seeing now also lower ages? If anything that would make it worse, not better. Throwing allegedly in there just takes away from an otherwise good point. Not that anyone here doesn't either already agree or will never agree anyway....

I know in MN the average age was hovering around 82 and I believe the the average life expectancy in the country is about 78. Then you include the fact that 80% of deaths in MN have been in LTCF. It’s interesting when facts are pointed out and people get worked up about it.

People like Handy concern me and could legitimately be sick in the head. I no doubt can see him scrolling the twitter feeds hoping to find info that says death rates are going up not down.

[alfablue]

I don't think there is anything alleged about the death rate dropping. It is not sneaking up on anyone with a functioning brain anymore. March and April we were woefully unprepared. Now those most vulnerable are doing a better job protecting themselves, and long term care facilities are more prepared/being more careful. It is no less deadly, just affecting a less fragile part of the population right now. Jeb likes to throw out the avg age of those that have died, I'd love to see that by week. Are the lower deaths we're seeing now also lower ages? If anything that would make it worse, not better. Throwing allegedly in there just takes away from an otherwise good point. Not that anyone here doesn't either already agree or will never agree anyway....

Here's the thing- it's dropped in states that may have gotten through this, like New York and Michigan.

But when I go to Florida Dept of Health's page, https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...8ddedb9b25e429 I don't see it dropping. Again, watching this chart for a while now, the deaths listed within a week appear low, but they have been looking like that for 3 weeks straight now. And if you look at 1 and 2 weeks ago, you see the deaths either the same or slightly going up.

Telling me that the death rate isn't actually going down. It's either the same or going up, and there's a time lag in the data.

Mind you, this is in a state where they have publicly said that they are suppressing data.

States are quickly getting into a situation where resources are a real problem- which is exactly what happened in New York City and Detroit, and is the primary reason deaths were so high.

Maybe I'm focusing on the wrong pages. But where things have gotten out of control, where is there data to suggest that the death rate has gone down?

[Jeb2020]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1280537077558456320

"Forty-three hospital ICUs in 21 Florida counties have hit capacity and show zero beds available, according to the latest data."

Hannity was right we all owe DeSantis an apology. He definitely did it right.

edit: I see the TrumpBots are out and saying stuff like "ICUs are at 85-95% capacity normally" and "they arent all COVID cases". They also seem to not grasp that while it is great the death rate is (allegedly) falling death is not the only outcome of this disease.

Yes, it sounds like you might want to learn how hospitals operate in regards to capacity.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aginnt/st...83864108163072

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBeren...21270043484160

[Jeb2020]

Coronavirus: Why everyone was wrong

https://medium.com/@vernunftundricht...g-fce6db5ba809

[Jeb2020]

Less than 300 deaths for under 60s from #COVIDー19 in the U.K. Combined with the rapidly falling new case rate, under 60s now have more chance of dying by a lightning strike.Yet the economy is being held back by media scare stories and govt timidity. #OpenUp

https://mobile.twitter.com/rodbishop...08610652573696

https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonJo37...70932296617985

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt....not-trust/amp/

[Jeb2020]

At least we can rest assured that the “science” behind the methods of case counting, death statistics, ect is “settled” by the bureaucrats run amok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/phiroc/st...99525524512768

[Jeb2020]

Here's the thing- it's dropped in states that may have gotten through this, like New York and Michigan.

But when I go to Florida Dept of Health's page, https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...8ddedb9b25e429 I don't see it dropping. Again, watching this chart for a while now, the deaths listed within a week appear low, but they have been looking like that for 3 weeks straight now. And if you look at 1 and 2 weeks ago, you see the deaths either the same or slightly going up.

Telling me that the death rate isn't actually going down. It's either the same or going up, and there's a time lag in the data.

Mind you, this is in a state where they have publicly said that they are suppressing data.

States are quickly getting into a situation where resources are a real problem- which is exactly what happened in New York City and Detroit, and is the primary reason deaths were so high.

Maybe I'm focusing on the wrong pages. But where things have gotten out of control, where is there data to suggest that the death rate has gone down?

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[Jeb2020]

https://mobile.twitter.com/malkusm/s...41051669086208