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  • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

    I think that's the whole point, though. It becomes clear very very early on in the show that he no longer needs to do what he is doing, if he even ever really did, even ignoring the financial aspects given the risk it takes. It becomes about his ego early on, especially given his belief he was screwed out of fame and fortune earlier in his life, so when he is trying to seem altruistic or trying to seem badass it is always through the lens of someone doing it for their self-gratification.
    Right. Literally episode 5 at Elliot’s birthday party is when “doing it for the family” is no longer an excuse. So that’s what, 90% of the series where he’s in it for himself?
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      • Originally posted by Proud2baLaker View Post



        Please tell me they will hide his face the entire time.
        They already showed it in the previews. Sorry

        but that would have been hilarious. Maybe a first in history.
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        • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

          They already showed it in the previews. Sorry

          but that would have been hilarious. Maybe a first in history.
          One of the reviews I read said they did the "unveiling" in the most Letterkenny way possible, and it works wonderfully.

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          • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

            I think that's the whole point, though. It becomes clear very very early on in the show that he no longer needs to do what he is doing, if he even ever really did, even ignoring the financial aspects given the risk it takes. It becomes about his ego early on, especially given his belief he was screwed out of fame and fortune earlier in his life, so when he is trying to seem altruistic or trying to seem badass it is always through the lens of someone doing it for their self-gratification.

            I don't exactly know what Kepler is expecting it to turn into, since he admittedly has not seen it and thus has no idea what he is talking about, other than his knowledge that if a lot of people liked it then it is passe and he is personally above it. I guess he thinks it tries to portray Walter as some Dirty Harry/Death Wish -esque normal-guy-turned-anti-hero, which is certainly does not, and frankly the fact it specifically does not do that is what made it so good.
            Yeah that would have been lame. It did kind of feel it might head that way for a bit but thankfully they were smarter than that. They should have killed off Skyler though...her and her moron sister were unwatchable.

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            • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Better Call Saul does a much better job at keeping the storylines relevant and evolving even if they rarely cross over.
              I could have lived without Mike's backstory. His entire family is irritating.
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              • Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                I don't exactly know what Kepler is expecting it to turn into, since he admittedly has not seen it and thus has no idea what he is talking about, other than his knowledge that if a lot of people liked it then it is passe and he is personally above it. I guess he thinks it tries to portray Walter as some Dirty Harry/Death Wish -esque normal-guy-turned-anti-hero, which is certainly does not, and frankly the fact it specifically does not do that is what made it so good.
                Then good, I will be pleasantly surprised.

                I can only go by how fans of BB trumpeted it at the time, and they were endlessly nattering on about Walter's badas-sery which zzzzz. But I also know listening to fans can be misleading given that 90% of young males who watched Mad Men thought Don was the hero, and I won't even get started on young women who watch Killing Eve.
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                • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  but that would have been hilarious. Maybe a first in history.
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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                    I could have lived without Mike's backstory. His entire family is irritating.
                    Yeah I can agree on that...
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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                      Then good, I will be pleasantly surprised.

                      I can only go by how fans of BB trumpeted it at the time, and they were endlessly nattering on about Walter's badas-sery which zzzzz. But I also know listening to fans can be misleading given that 90% of young males who watched Mad Men thought Don was the hero, and I won't even get started on young women who watch Killing Eve.
                      His being a badazz is more about the fact that he just goes full dark. He does things that are irredeemable. He makes hardcore moves which you love to watch but not cause he is a hero...its like cheering for Scarface.
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                      • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                        His being a badazz is more about the fact that he just goes full dark. He does things that are irredeemable. He makes hardcore moves which you love to watch but not cause he is a hero...its like cheering for Scarface.
                        If I recall, Vince's goal was to create a series where the viewers would eventually be rooting against the protagonist. I'm not sure that was ever accomplished because even as he became less and less sympathetic he was still put in David v Goliath situations with people who were as bad or worse than him, leaving no choice but to root for him.
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                        • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post

                          If I recall, Vince's goal was to create a series where the viewers would eventually be rooting against the protagonist. I'm not sure that was ever accomplished because even as he became less and less sympathetic he was still put in David v Goliath situations with people who were as bad or worse than him, leaving no choice but to root for him.
                          Yeah a lot of it became that the people he was going up against (Tuco, Gus, Todd) were equally as bad. If it's awful versus awful, I guess you want to root for the one showing actual strategy. But it was never that one was wholesome.

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                          • SNL losing some firepower between this season and next. McKinnon, Bryant, and Mooney all leaving. Other than that talent, Davidson is also out.
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                            • Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                              SNL losing some firepower between this season and next. McKinnon, Bryant, and Mooney all leaving. Other than that talent, Davidson is also out.
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                              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                                His being a badazz is more about the fact that he just goes full dark. He does things that are irredeemable. He makes hardcore moves which you love to watch but not cause he is a hero...its like cheering for Scarface.
                                Might be why it leaves me cold. I hate gangster movies (don't worry, Godfather gets a pass). Sociopaths are not entertaining, as we've learned from rightwing politics since 1994.
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