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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    It is not an insult to say a comedian's humor is not contemporary. Have you met contemporary?

    JS is probably not going to be the cupa for people who think memes and social media hits are the pinnacle of satire. He's not meta. I think his intended audience is pretty much the same people who watched TDS when he was host -- they have more power to effect change now; in fact they are the liberal establishment now, the GS 15's in the federal government, and the COOs of Non Profits and main muscle of places like Brookings. He's chicken soup for the people like my wife who do battle every day in the trenches against the Nazis. There's a place for that. It's not my politics, it's too safe, but he's closer to the pulse of the people who will actually defeat the MAGAts than my fey parlor pinkism.

    Oliver tries to reach The Keeeds and while I love him it can be cringe. Colbert is Jack Benny 80 years later -- he is timeless, he will never age off, because it all comes from kindness and a deeply conservative temperament amused by the idiocy of modernity. Stewart is a topical humorist: he's our day's Steve Allen. He definitely has an expiration date, but I am well within it so I'm fine with him.

    No like? No watch.
    I used to watch the Daily Show almost...well...daily back when Stewart was on. By your definition I am exactly who should be liking his stuff on the show right now. I don't. The show is fine, he just doesn't seem to belong there. It feels like a bad reunion tour where everyone in the band is much younger now but the lead singer is still holding on to past glory and it feels out of place.

    I mean imagine if Jon Stewart from 15 years ago had watched that Tucker interview...the takedown would have been glorious! I mean I used to show his mocking of Glenn Bleck (Santa = Satan/socialism) in class all of the time as some of the most amazing satire of the modern era. That is what we need right now...and he didn't seem up to the task.

    Agreed on Colbert...I never would have thought that based on the Colbert Report (which was very schizo in how great or weak it could be) but he really is a timeless type of talent and has no issue saying out loud what we tend to say in private. (and his corporate masters want him to say none of it)
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
    -aparch

    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
    -INCH

    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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    • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
      Jon is old and operating like it's still 2015, so it's good that he had Traitorous Tucker to lay into this week. I enjoyed this week's show more than last week's. I do think leveraging Keith Olbermann as a detractor was lazy, since he's a pompous arse who hates everyone who doesn't conform to his genius thinking (sarc). And honestly, Tucker is so ridiculous now as to be almost beyond mockery, hence the deadpanned, "I know I've said this before - you're such a dick."
      Yeah using Olbermann was pretty funny...that dude probably hates his own dog. You could tell though he was not happy people were so displeased. And to be fair, he probably assumed he would get a bit more grace, a longer honeymoon period on his return. And maybe he deserved that.

      The problem is, when almost all of the media is saying the same thing you are people tire of it fast. People don't want JS back on The Daily Show so he can basically give us the same thing the New York Times is saying with some sarcastic jokes added in to get the lulz. People want him back to point out the total hypocrisy of the media for having those beliefs. (I mean this is the guy who made Jim Cramer his bich and then went after all of NBC when they circled the wagons)

      I will say his interviews are quite good...which was honestly the only real good parts of his Apple Show as well.
      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
      -aparch

      "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
      -INCH

      Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
      -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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      • Say what you will about Jon...

        or..
        Last edited by Slap Shot; 02-20-2024, 05:39 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
          Say what you will about Jon...

          or..
          Yeah, and despite all that and despite Democrats being in Congress nothing ever ****ing changes. We just get to enjoy Jon's performance art and hope it's cathartic enough.
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          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

            Yeah, and despite all that and despite Democrats being in Congress nothing ever ****ing changes. We just get to enjoy Jon's performance art and hope it's cathartic enough.
            My main point was, STOP CRYING ABOUT JON!!!

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            • Just watched LAST WEEK TONIGHT....

              If anyone on the Left wants to know how to produce media that will get under the Right's skin and coax them into making errors, that is how you do it.

              It's turning the Right's own tactics used for getting under the skin of "snowflakes" but doing it 100% without lies/deception and it truly takes a shot at things they hold close to their hearts.

              That is what the Dems need to use in their 2024 campaign(s)... Just do things to get a response from the right, then plaster said response front & center. Make sure EVERYONE knows what that response was. That's how you take advantage of the 60/40 split we currently have.
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              • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

                My main point was, STOP CRYING ABOUT JON!!!
                Why...those are clips from his other show and have zero to do with the stuff he has done on TDS so far. That stuff was much better and basically backed up what I and others have said that he seemed more in his element on that show or a podcast.

                But sure, keep pretending his Insta account posting clips from previous years work is somehow relevant to critiques of his current work as if people don't age and change. It ranks up there with your telling us how Bill Maher has not lurched heavily to the Right in the past few years despite all evidence to the contrary. ;^)
                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                -aparch

                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                -INCH

                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                • "Lurched heavily to the right"

                  Yeah I'm standing ok thanks. : )

                  Also when Jon still puts out stuff like this (current) I'm not going to clutch my pearls.

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                  • Stewart nailed it on Israel-Palestine!
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                    -aparch

                    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                    -INCH

                    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                    • We're fighting Nazis. The backbiting can wait until after we win.

                      Once the major parties are the Left and the Liberals we can have unending fun eviscerating each other. Not now.
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                      • Watched the preview for Shogun (first 2 eps now available) and it looks great. It's just a bonus that I learned it stars Anna Sawai from Monarch.

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                        • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                          Stewart nailed it on Israel-Palestine!
                          Shame his actual proposal will never happen, because none of the other ME countries give a fcuk about the Palestinians except to use them as leverage against Israel and the West.

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                          • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                            Shame his actual proposal will never happen, because none of the other ME countries give a fcuk about the Palestinians except to use them as leverage against Israel and the West.
                            Yeah which gets discussed in the interview with the Muslim and Jewish journalists (might be in the extended version) which actually was the best part of the whole discussion.

                            There was a pretty good interview in Politico (yeah I know) with a former ambassador to the ME where he discusses why a lot of Arab nations hate the Palestinians...the Palestinians make a habit of shooting themselves in the foot and backing the wrong horses.
                            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                            -aparch

                            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                            -INCH

                            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                            • Goddamn you Jon Stewart. As someone with a dog who is nearing the end, he made me cry last night when he cried

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                              • The True Detective finale cleaned things up too much for me. I was fine with the character arcs, but Danvers in particular I needed lasting suffering.
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