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  • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    What throws me off when they have an actor host is how much better the actor is at reading lines and maintaining composure. I know the cast are comedians first, but you get Driver coming in and memorizing every line of 6-7 sketches and nailing the character in each one, while some cast members will only be in one or two sketches, still have to read the cue cards and flub the delivery.
    Doesn't Lorne actively want them using the cue cards nowadays so they can change up the specific lines whenever they feel like it?

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    • Memorization and reading the cards work at cross purposes -- they're different parts of your brain. You pretty much need to commit. If you commit to memorization and you flake you have to improv "small" -- the idea is bridge to another actor who will pick the script back up and pull you back onto it. The cue cards are there as a crutch but you'll stumble using them. If you commit to the cue cards, and you're a pro, you're fine but inflexible.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

        So, episode 38 of the same argument we have been having for 20 years.

        Convoluted can be excessive, but convoluted is not necessarily excessive. Serious question: what do you think of Proust? Or Joyce? Are they "dumb"?

        Note: I have this opinion about modern art. I hate it. I think it's dumb, and when people tell me that means I don't understand I bridle and think "no, you're just a fake." But my problem with convoluted classics in other media is I genuinely take pleasure from them, and I do understand them. So all the evidence is that in modern art it's me who is dumb.

        Worse, as I listen to more Zappa and avant-garde music, I go from hating it and thinking it is mere noise to enjoying it and finding pleasure in it, and that is partly because I learned about it. The very opposite of dumb.
        I doubt I woukd find them dumb. Plenty of stuff can be convoluted but still in the end work. This didnt and part of it is they had no clue how the show was supposed to end...or if they did they never wrote a road map to get there. Episodic TV is not jazz, you need to have a plan or things that happen later won't make sense. And you can only rely on "he is an unreliable narrator" for so long.

        This happens a lot. I never finished Ozark because the stories were so ridiculous by the penultimate season that it strained any real credibility. They had built up so many stories and people kept switching sides or narrowly escaping to the point the stakes no longer mattered.

        I honestly planned to rewatch all of Mr. Robot and see if maybe that helped it work better...I just can't force myself to do it. Made decent progress when the SO watched but she quit halfway through season 3 because it got boring. I tried to convince her by explaining what was to come (reading synopses) and she vetoed it.
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        • The Curse.

          The pilot was great. Excellent writing and direction, and IINM it's the principal guy who does both. Stone's fine as the other lead. It treats you like an adult, which is jarring after the last 30 years of copy-paste clever irony and/or adolescent fart sniffing.

          Love it so far.
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          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

            I doubt I woukd find them dumb. Plenty of stuff can be convoluted but still in the end work. This didnt and part of it is they had no clue how the show was supposed to end...or if they did they never wrote a road map to get there. Episodic TV is not jazz, you need to have a plan or things that happen later won't make sense. And you can only rely on "he is an unreliable narrator" for so long.

            This happens a lot. I never finished Ozark because the stories were so ridiculous by the penultimate season that it strained any real credibility. They had built up so many stories and people kept switching sides or narrowly escaping to the point the stakes no longer mattered.

            I honestly planned to rewatch all of Mr. Robot and see if maybe that helped it work better...I just can't force myself to do it. Made decent progress when the SO watched but she quit halfway through season 3 because it got boring. I tried to convince her by explaining what was to come (reading synopses) and she vetoed it.
            When I rewatch it I will probably skip S3, it was weak and I don't think understanding the full arc will help much. But hey it may.

            Overall I think the show is excellent and captures the spirit of the time well.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              The Curse.

              The pilot was great. Excellent writing and direction, and IINM it's the principal guy who does both. Stone's fine as the other lead. It treats you like an adult, which is jarring after the last 30 years of copy-paste clever irony and/or adolescent fart sniffing.

              Love it so far.
              I am so uncomfortable watching it, but I can’t stop. Nathan fielder is really, really good at this

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              • I finally got around to watching Good Rivals (3-part series bout the US-MEX soccer rivalry) and did so because I watched the first 2 released episodes of The Billion Dollar Goal which traces the evolution of soccer in the U.S., mostly centered around the USMNT but with plenty of coverage on the rise and fall and rise of professional soccer.

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                • Fargo still rolling.

                  the line about libertarians was funny

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                  • I watched the 90-minute Frontline documentary 20 Days in Mariupol. It is extremely well done but dammit I could use a hug. Oh and **** Russia.

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                    • In preparation for the New True Detective coming in January I am watching the first season of True Detective. Which I had never seen. I had seen seasons 2 and 3. Go figure.
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                      • Started watching The White Lotus, finally. So far I like season 2 much better than season 1. And as much as I love Jennifer Coolidge, her character is really annoying.

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                        • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          In preparation for the New True Detective coming in January I am watching the first season of True Detective. Which I had never seen. I had seen seasons 2 and 3. Go figure.
                          S1 is very good, although I thought the ending was kinda cheap, and the epilogue was full on insultingly stupid.

                          I've been warned off the rest as crap.
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                          • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                            Oh and **** Russia.
                            And their GOP enablers.
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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                              S1 is very good, although I thought the ending was kinda cheap, and the epilogue was full on insultingly stupid.

                              I've been warned off the rest as crap.
                              S2 is not great (except for one shootout scene I thought was ok). S3 wasn't bad I thought. Much better than 2, but not as good as 1. Hopeful for 4.

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                              • Season 3 is, to use a word dx uses a lot, cromulent. Parts of it are great, and the acting is wonderful IMHO but the ending was rather weak and I think they went a bit too far with the multiple timelines. I get they wanted to make it better than S2 (which I never even finished it was so blah) but its almost like they decided to go too far the other way. Season 1 was great in part because it walked a very fine line with the philosophical and mystical and downright evil. (and then kind of goes off a cliff at the end but I think handled it pretty well overall) I mean Woody Harrelson is basically half the audience mocking McConaughey when he goes on his little mystical rants. There is a character for everyone in the audience to latch onto. That was non-existent in season 2 and in season 3...I dunno I never really found anyone to say "hey that is what I was thinking!" so it kind of lost me at the end.
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