MLB 2020: We'll Play Ball, I Guess.

[state of hockey]

Am I literally the only one who likes the name, logo, and colors of the Minnesota professional hockey team?

Maybe. I don’t mind the logo. I actually like the colors. The name is awful, though.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Knowing my own college hockey team preference you should understand no disrespect intended, but for obvious reasons you may not be the best person to make this post.

Certainly you can spot the difference between the Indians nickname and the Sioux nickname?

But given your inability to spot the obvious in the political threads here, maybe not.

[Spartanforlife4]

Am I literally the only one who likes the name, logo, and colors of the Minnesota professional hockey team?

Name? Eh.

Logo? Great.

Colors? Good. Except for when they decided to make red the primary for the homes.

[SJHovey]

Certainly you can spot the difference between the Indians nickname and the Sioux nickname?

But given your inability to spot the obvious in the political threads here, maybe not.

Guess you’ll just have to lawyer ‘splain it to me.

[St. Clown]

Certainly you can spot the difference between the Indians nickname and the Sioux nickname?

But given your inability to spot the obvious in the political threads here, maybe not.

Given that no indigenous people on this continent call themselves Indians, and see it as a derogatory term as some invading Spanish guy (see what I did there?) slapped it on them out of sheer ignorance, I do not.

[SJHovey]

My point was not to vilify FS23. I have no ongoing disagreements with him, as far as I know, although based upon his response to me I'm no longer so sure about this.

But I thought his shot against Cleveland was uncalled for, frankly. I don't see the need to to take shots at people or organizations who have chosen to do the right thing, even if it's taken them longer to do so than we (or others) may have liked.

[Kepler]

Given that no indigenous people on this continent call themselves Indians, and see it as a derogatory term as some invading Spanish guy (see what I did there?)

Shoulda called him a "Mexican." That would have driven it home better. :-)

[Kepler]

This is gorgeous. And the perfect rebuke of the monotonous comic book pablum of the last 30 years.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

My point was not to vilify FS23. I have no ongoing disagreements with him, as far as I know, although based upon his response to me I'm no longer so sure about this.

But I thought his shot against Cleveland was uncalled for, frankly. I don't see the need to to take shots at people or organizations who have chosen to do the right thing, even if it's taken them longer to do so than we (or others) may have liked.

My shot against Cleveland is that despite recognizing that using the Indians nickname is no longer acceptable, rather than go without a nickname (see Washington Football Team), they have elected to use an unacceptable nickname until such (as yet undecided) time where they will change their nickname.

In other words, they've recognized something they were doing was wrong, but they are not taking steps to immediately rectify that wrong.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Given that no indigenous people on this continent call themselves Indians, and see it as a derogatory term as some invading Spanish guy (see what I did there?) slapped it on them out of sheer ignorance, I do not.

Given your post, it actually does appear you understand (at least in part) the difference I was pointing out.

I'm not sure what you meant by the Spanish guy reference, but perhaps you were alluding to the fact that Columbus was actually Italian?

[Fighting Sioux 23]

This is gorgeous. And the perfect rebuke of the monotonous comic book pablum of the last 30 years.

I like the home jerseys. The pants are hideous.

[dxmnkd316]

This is gorgeous. And the perfect rebuke of the monotonous comic book pablum of the last 30 years.

wut

[Spartanforlife4]

I like the home jerseys. The pants are hideous.

Looks like a slow pitch uniform.

[SJHovey]

My shot against Cleveland is that despite recognizing that using the Indians nickname is no longer acceptable, rather than go without a nickname (see Washington Football Team), they have elected to use an unacceptable nickname until such (as yet undecided) time where they will change their nickname.

In other words, they've recognized something they were doing was wrong, but they are not taking steps to immediately rectify that wrong.

Yeah, I got that. But it didn't really answer my question. So, because you choose to be obtuse about it, I'll ask directly.

Why do you choose to cast stones at the Cleveland Indians for waiting a year before voluntarily changing their name, one that Native Americans find offensive, when you've elected to continue to use a similar name as your screen name for now five or six years after your school changed because, Native Americans found the name offensive?

[Kepler]

Yeah, I got that. But it didn't really answer my question. So, because you choose to be obtuse about it, I'll ask directly.

Why do you choose to cast stones at the Cleveland Indians for waiting a year before voluntarily changing their name, one that Native Americans find offensive, when you've elected to continue to use a similar name as your screen name for now five or six years after your school changed because, Native Americans found the name offensive?

To be fair.

The Sioux logo stays because it is forking amazing.