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  • WeAreNDHockey
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    I'm trying to be hopeful but with the coronavirus, the voter suppression we know that has happened routinely in this century and will be happening as bad or worse this time, the extra violence and intimidation I expect in some of the worst parts of our country when people of color are trying to vote, and the all around evisceration of the USPS that is underway before an election that ideally would have seen a doubling of mail-in voting, I am really beginning to doubt any of us are going to feel good in the days and weeks after election day.

    When Nixon was trying to save his hide Americans on both sides of the aisle basically said "no." Republicans --either because Republicans in 1974 still had souls or they simply saw the writing on the walls the electorate was scribbling -- took the right path and did what they needed to do to avert the worst crisis we may have seen in the presidency from bringing the country down. That is not going to happen in 2020. Trump has lost almost none of his support from the day people voted for him. There is no reason -- other than if they still have souls -- for republicans to do the right thing now. You can count on your hand how many republicans have souls. You will probably have fingers left over. If the worst happens on Election day and in the days to follow, republicans will not do the right things, they will fan the flames.

    This country needs to either figure this 5h!t out or get on with dying.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    It would be easier to refuse to mail ballots than stop them from being counted.

    23 execs fired last night.

    Any of our republicans here wanna explain how this is cool?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/joelockha...87203200786433

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  • French Rage
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    Just look at this feeble slow-witted old man: https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/stat...30789052887041

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  • Rogie21
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    Today in "Shocking but not surprising"--
    USPS has informed states that they’ll need to pay first-class 55-cent postage to mail ballots to voters, rather than the normal 20-cent bulk rate. That nearly triples the per-ballot cost.
    https://twitter.com/TheProspect/stat...351479809?s=20

    Trump has weaponized the DOJ, the Dept. of State and the EPA. Why not do the same with the USPS?

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  • Rogie21
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Stopping local officials from counting?

    Honestly I’d love to have a D say this and see how our local conservatives react

    https://mobile.twitter.com/anitakuma...87516292681728
    “Obstruction of justice as a way of life.” John Bolton
    “Cheating as a way of life.” Mary Trump
    “Lying as a way of life.” America

    It's the #TrumpTrifecta

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Stopping local officials from counting?

    Honestly I’d love to have a D say this and see how our local conservatives react

    https://mobile.twitter.com/anitakuma...87516292681728
    Last edited by Deutsche Gopher Fan; Yesterday, 01:50 PM.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by bronconick View Post
    Can't let her in. She got bit by a possibly rabid bat. Might have to put her down.
    I never drink... wine.

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  • bronconick
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    Can't let her in. She got bit by a possibly rabid bat. Might have to put her down.

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  • Handyman
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    If you are on Twitter just look up the hashtag #LetHerSpeak. It isnt Stein it is all for Jo Jorgensen but it is a lot of the same people and bots.

    Edit: Here...https://twitter.com/search?q=%23leth...rc=typed_query

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Oh god the Steiners and their Russian Masters are out trying to get Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian Candidate) in the debates.
    Link?

    is Stein running again? That would basically be proof she's on Putin's payroll.

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  • Kepler
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    The theft continues to develop.

    I'm too old to take to the streets so all you f-ckers better make sure you vote in a way in which the Dumptards can't shred it.

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  • Handyman
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    Oh god the Steiners and their Russian Masters are out trying to get Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian Candidate) in the debates.

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  • Handyman
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    They dont even pretend to hide it...

    Though it should be noted that the price increase is not a poll tax like some of the Twitter people are saying. The price increase is to discourage the States from sending out the ballots. (they are paying the price for the bulk mail) There should be no issue with the voters themselves.
    Last edited by Handyman; Yesterday, 11:03 AM.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

    At this stage in the game I cannot believe there are any people who are planning to vote who are actually undecided. I never believed the numbers of undecideds anyway. I always think they are over-reported.

    Barring some scandal tied to prominent democrats (pizza-gate turning out to be real) I cannot see anything the leadership among democrats doing as blowing this election. I think an attorney general-led corruption investigation of Biden and his family isn't even likely to have the same impact the Comey shenanigans had on turnout for Clinton in 2016. People who are going to bother to vote are wise to what has been going on with this president.

    My only real concern is voter suppression and intimidation and fraudulent counting in republican areas of swing states. I believe that is the only arrow trump has left in his quiver. In fact, I do not believe a trump win will be legitimate.
    There are always undecideds. It’s just how long that field is and what yard marker.

    my original theory on undecideds:

    I think the undecided window is real, but we're making a massive mistake in assuming it's the same people. That window shifts up and down the field and has a different width.

    With an election of Romney-Obama, the undecided window might look like:
    <------------Field------------>
    ..................<------>............. (Window)

    Obama vs. Dump:
    <------------Field------------>
    ................................<-->.....

    Hillary vs. Dump (2016, only knowing what we knew on 11/8/2016)
    <------------Field------------>
    ..............<---------->............

    Hillary vs. Dump (2016, only knowing what we knew know now)
    <------------Field------------>
    ...........................<--------->

    We've (maybe just the average dummy like me) have assumed they're always "centrists" and "independents". They aren't. They always move. This year the undecideds are right-wingers who haven't decided whether they can pull the lever for a nazi and live with themselves.

    This is probably all PolySci 101, but whatever.
    I’ll modify it to say it’s more complex than this. There are people who think that being undecided somehow makes them morally superior or whatever nonsense that helps them sleep. There is also a third dimension to that graph in that some people won’t vote or will refuse to vote for the other party regardless.
    Last edited by dxmnkd316; Yesterday, 10:36 AM.

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  • burd
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Friday state poll round-up:

    There are 12 more Fridays until Dr. Mrs.' Birthday (and Election Day).

    Code:
    MI: Biden +7.8 (8.0 swing from 2016)
    WI: Biden +7.5 (8.3)
    PA: Biden +6.1 (6.8)
    FL: Biden +5.2 (6.4)
    NE-2: ? (needs just a 2.3 swing)
    AZ: Biden +3.6 (7.2)
    NC: Biden +2.9 (6.6)
    OH: Biden +0.3 (8.4)
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    GA: Dump +0.9 (4.2)
    TX: Dump +0.9 (9.9)
    IA: Dump +1.4 (8.0)
    ME-2: ? (would need 10.3 swing)
    
    Projected EV: Biden 352 Dump 186
    I guess it's on you to make sure she gets a big election gift.

    Though we'll do our parts in helping to ensure the local parts of of it come through.

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