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  • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    It started that way, but I think it's now fitting, since Republicans don't believe in democracy. Republic is in their name, after all.
    TBF another one of their thought-terminating cliches is just this, "a republic not a democracy." It's a classic case of "I don't think that word means what you think it means," since by the Founders' lights not one of the failures who compose the Republican party today would have been allowed to vote.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

      I certainly was not accusing you of being a fellow traveler. My post was offered in the spirit of:

      I wasn't accusing swansong or believed the post was meant to annoy either. That is why I posted I did not think it was done on purpose and also meant it as a "more you know" moment. Nothing more, nothing less.

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      • 538 looks at the battleground deltas over the last few weeks. tl; dr: Biden is getting stronger. So far at least we are not f-cking this up.

        Note that the points in the quote below are odds of winning, not vote percentages. Odds vary directly with votes but amplify them: so for example if Biden leads a state by 55-45 in votes that is let's say 75-25 in odds.

        But underneath the topline numbers, there has still been some fairly big movement in a handful of key battleground states, and the news has been mostly good for Biden. If we look at how much Biden’s odds have changed in states where both he and Trump have at least a 1 in 10 shot of winning since we launched the forecast on Aug. 12, Biden has improved his chances in 17 of 20 states. And in some cases, Biden’s improvement has been considerable — +15 percentage points in Minnesota, +12 points in Arizona and +10 points in Wisconsin, for instance. By comparison, Trump’s odds have really only improved in Florida, although he hasn’t lost much ground in states such as Georgia and Ohio, which may signal that Biden’s electoral gains will not be that expansive. (Trump still leads in Texas, for instance, despite Biden’s improvement there.)
        Last edited by Kepler; 09-16-2020, 03:06 PM.
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          538 looks at the battleground deltas over the last few weeks. tl; dr: Biden is getting stronger. So far at least we are not f-cking this up.

          Note that the points in the quote below are odds of winning, not vote percentages. Odds vary directly with votes but amplify them: so for example if Biden leads a state by 55-45 in votes that is let's say 75-25 in odds.
          Is there anywhere there that shows the constituent polls? I can't find it with the new setup. I like his analysis numbers and all, but the raw polls would be good to see too.

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          • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

            Is there anywhere there that shows the constituent polls? I can't find it with the new setup. I like his analysis numbers and all, but the raw polls would be good to see too.
            I think if you go to each poll you can dig down to the crosstabs. I don't think they aggregate that data because there would be too many apples vs oranges. Just imagine for instance trying generalize Rasmussen's ridiculous data sets with anybody else.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              While I agree with your statement, that story is DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!!!1!!1

              I hafta write a story about an election where one guy is ahead 8-10 points. I have a deadline to make. What do I write to cut through the clutter? "Guy is still ahead 8-10 points"?
              I certainly wasn't trying to promote, "panic porn" but I would rather the DNC leave no stone left unturned.

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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                FWIW I did not read dx as scolding you at all. I think he was just letting you know same as I was.

                Although I actually am a scold, dx is a better person than I. Low bar.
                Ha, don’t be so sure. I’m no better.
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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                  I think if you go to each poll you can dig down to the crosstabs. I don't think they aggregate that data because there would be too many apples vs oranges. Just imagine for instance trying generalize Rasmussen's ridiculous data sets with anybody else.
                  Every one of the polls has a clickable link to the pdf. Some are literally hundreds of pages long.
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                  College Hockey 6       College Football 0
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                  Originally posted by SanTropez
                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                  I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                  Originally posted by Kepler
                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                  • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

                    I certainly wasn't trying to promote, "panic porn" but I would rather the DNC leave no stone left unturned.
                    I kinda agree with your sentiment. If it means having a socially distant storefront available... make it happen DNC! Especially in an area that was "neglected" last time, it doesn't matter if you've got it well covered virtually. Boots on the ground.
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                    • Dump campaign asks Judge to halt NJ early vote count. Because of course

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                      • So...Dems in Dissaray!!1!??? ;-)
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                        • Just...why

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                          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            So...Dems in Dissaray!!1!??? ;-)
                            You don't always have to be a nozzle. =^p

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                            • Can you guys help me come up with a response for two dear friends of mine? I posted that Obama video about voting on Facebook and one friend asked “why are people afraid to vote?” And another said “how is going to vote different from going to the supermarket?” I want to explain how we have it really good here but there are areas in the US where polling places are closed and lines are super long, etc. I remember this happened in Wisconsin in the spring - am I misremembering? Anyway, any examples you can provide would be helpful.

                              One of these friends literally lives a block from the school where she has to vote. She just doesn’t get how some people are being forced to travel miles and wait in line for hours in a pandemic to vote.

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                              • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
                                Can you guys help me come up with a response for two dear friends of mine? I posted that Obama video about voting on Facebook and one friend asked “why are people afraid to vote?” And another said “how is going to vote different from going to the supermarket?” I want to explain how we have it really good here but there are areas in the US where polling places are closed and lines are super long, etc. I remember this happened in Wisconsin in the spring - am I misremembering? Anyway, any examples you can provide would be helpful.

                                One of these friends literally lives a block from the school where she has to vote. She just doesn’t get how some people are being forced to travel miles and wait in line for hours in a pandemic to vote.
                                Not to be a wise guy Scarlet, but your friend asks a very good question ...

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