Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

[Drew S.]

Aren’t you the one who said anyone but Harris? Does her place on the ticket make you rethink your vote?

I didn’t think it was the right move. I’m still 100% for Biden/Harris and will donate money, volunteer, and do anything else I can do to get them elected.

One thought I had this morning is how does she play with black men without a college degree? I could see some resentment given her background and it seems like Trump has some sort of weird hold over uneducated people.

[Kepler]

really feel this was a bad choice when better options were out there.

When you and Drew are uncomfortable with a choice, it's a good choice.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Aren’t you the one who said anyone but Harris? Does her place on the ticket make you rethink your vote?

Nope, that was me. I'm not thrilled with the choice, but I'm not gonna do anything stupid like vote Loonitarian just because she's the VP nominee. I'm sure she'll make a fine POTUS once Biden starts drooling on himself and has to resign.

[Kepler]

I didn’t think it was the right move. I’m still 100% for Biden/Harris and will donate money, volunteer, and do anything else I can do to get them elected.

One thought I had this morning is how does she play with black men without a college degree? I could see some resentment given her background and it seems like Trump has some sort of weird hold over uneducated people.

Uneducated whites love Dump because they (rightly) see themselves in him.

Uneducated everybody else still find him repulsive for his racism and xenophobia.

That is why the cons work so hard to disenfranchise uneducated everybody else.

[Kepler]

Nope, that was me. I'm not thrilled with the choice, but I'm not gonna do anything stupid like vote Loonitarian just because she's the VP nominee. I'm sure she'll make a fine POTUS once Biden starts drooling on himself and has to resign.

And that's what is important here. She isn't a deal breaker for anybody. Warren, PBUH, would have been. So would Abrams. Rice may have been although anybody who believes the conspiracy BS about her is probably already gargling the mushroom.

By all rights a Centrist-Centrist ticket should leave me depressed, but it doesn't at all. (1) I didn't expect anything else; when the establishment is attacked it excludes, but also (2) the key thing right now is to scour out the Nazis. It isn't dating, it's hiring exterminators.

[First Time, Long Time]

Everyone voting for anyone is already decided.

what you need however is to get them motivated to vote.

we all know that, right?

I don't believe that to be true. And if Harris was your "motivation" or lack there of...point still stands. You weren't actually going to vote or vote for Biden. That's just the excuse you justify it to yourself with.

[Drew S.]

Uneducated whites love Dump because they (rightly) see themselves in him.

Uneducated everybody else still find him repulsive for his racism and xenophobia.

That is why the cons work so hard to disenfranchise uneducated everybody else.

Hopefully you’re right, but I’m sure we are going to have a ‘swift boat veterans’ group of black men who were railroaded by Harris when she was DA. I think it’s a clear opening for Trump.

[burd]

I hope Rs make perceived gains in the next 30 days, so all Biden voters feel the urgency of showing up. If they do that, the dumpster idiocy is white noise. And that includes the perception (fear) that dump will steal the election through suppression.

[unofan]

538's model released, which has Biden in the same% that Clinton had been in 2016 election morning. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/

With the caveat that if it were election day, Biden would be at 91%. The reason he's lower is simply because there's 100 days till the election and that's plenty of time for unexpected things to happen.

[Rover]

I like the pick. Biden doesn't need a Hail Mary and while I would have preferred Abrams I also realize that Harris has much more experience if she needs to step in at a moment's notice. It also reinforces the perception that Biden can get along with anybody in the Democratic party from Sanders to Manchin and everyone in between. No one went after Uncle Joe more in the debates and yet here we are.

[Kepler]

Hopefully you’re right, but I’m sure we are going to have a ‘swift boat veterans’ group of black men who were railroaded by Harris when she was DA. I think it’s a clear opening for Trump.

But the GOP does that anyway. The thing about lies is they are lies: you can say anything about anyone.

The cons got that message in 1980 and have been living on it ever since: if you divorce your rhetoric from facts then you can run a fantasy campaign. Liberals believed for decades that the voters would see through it and make them pay. That is because the Left was raised in academia where truth matters. The Right was raised in business, where sales matter.

[Handyman]

Two things should tell you everything you need to know about how scared Trump and his cronies are: 1) They were unprepared for this choice. He and Faux are talking about how uber Left and socialist the ticket is now (worst in history in that regard) and the Congressional GOP is saying the Left hates Harris because she isnt Progressive enough. They may fool Cletus into buying that weird thought experiment but no one else will. Outside of mocking her name and some racist/sexist crap they dont have much to go off of. 2) The Times is reporting Kushner met with Kanye about his spoiler campaign. (which I am pretty sure is election fraud) They are the turtle stuck on its back flailing right now.

[Handyman]

There is already people claiming Kamala isnt eligible because she isnt a naturalized citizen. (obviously debunked) Good lord...

[Scarlet]

Kep - having a brain fade at the moment..what is PBUH?

[Handyman]

Liz Cheney would like you to know that "Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t." (she actually tweeted that https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/statu...10682654416896 ) So since Trump is trying to take away health care as we speak...does that make him RADICAL LEFT?!?!? I never knew it was part of the Marxist/Socialist Agenda to take away health care. And here I was told by...well...Liz Cheney and her ilk that the Marxist/Socialist agenda was about things like socialized medicine. WHO KNEW?!??!?