Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

[bronconick]

I want to meet the Very wells. Those must be interesting cats.

Well, the top 5% in wealth is around $300k on average. That's probably some of it.

[Kepler]

Well, the top 5% in wealth is around $300k on average. That's probably some of it.

$2.4M is the bracket delimeter, so the median around $5M.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I want to meet the Very wells. Those must be interesting cats.

Two of my uncles, for sure.

[Drew S.]

I mean ideologically.

Harris is fine, but aspirationally she's a step if not backwards then at best in place. At a time when the Third Way myth has disintegrated and radical liberalism / socialism / whatever comes nextism is being acknowledged by thinking people as the way to restore American values, Harris is a younger Biden: a highly ambitious pol who is primarily interested in cementing back the old Democratic establishment received from Clinton and tweaked by Obama. She is not receptive to radical removal of all the rightwing bullsh-t of the past half century.

Put it this way, Drew. I love you dude, but a candidate who is acceptable to you is not the right candidate for now. The cul de sac that began even before Reagan of reigning in welfare and social investment -- a dead end that even Jimmy Carter was dancing down -- leads inevitably to the death spiral of the current emergency. 2020 is what happens when you weaken the government, a progressive force dedicated to the best interests of all citizens, and strengthen the private sector, a regressive force dedicated to the best interests of the richest few.

The lunatic right may have engineered the descent into fascism, but the compromising left allowed it. They were the "good men who did nothing while the evil men triumphed." And Harris is a smoothly machine-tooled product of that Democratic establishment. She doesn't get it. Her friends are in Georgetown, Park Slope, and Marin. She isn't going to gore their ox, and that's what we need to recover.

I’ll put it to you a different way, why would you pick Harris over Rice? I think Rice brings a lot more to the table.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I’ll put it to you a different way, why would you pick Harris over Rice? I think Rice brings a lot more to the table.

I agree, but Rice didn't want the role.

[Kepler]

I’ll put it to you a different way, why would you pick Harris over Rice? I think Rice brings a lot more to the table.

Rice clearly wants to be President someday, though. Who knows?

[Slap Shot]

Rice clearly wants to be President someday, though. Who knows?

Then take the VP from someone that is likely to walk away after 1 term.

[Kepler]

Then take the VP from someone that is likely to walk away after 1 term.

Or be carried out feet first. Worked for Truman.

[Kepler]

New poll shows Dump 13 points down.

That's a new Rasmussen poll.

Correcting for house effects, that's 19 points down.

Reagan beat Mondale by 18 points.

[Kepler]

This is making the rounds on Fox.

[geezer]

I've never made a political $ donation before yesterday, but as one of the conservative "nevertrumper" "human scum" that Stumpie has been ranting about from his bunker, I thought it fitting to send a pile of cash to The Lincoln Project. They've been running ads that are reflective of my own feelings and I'd like to see more of them.

[Scarlet]

This is making the rounds on Fox.

I saw that over the weekend. Wishful thinking but I don't think it will ever happen. But let's say if did - how does that work? That doesn't mean he resigns, it just means he more or less decides not to run. And the the GOP would have to find a replacement, right? It doesn't automatically become Pence, right?

[cF[Authentic]]

I saw that over the weekend. Wishful thinking but I don't think it will ever happen. But let's say if did - how does that work? That doesn't mean he resigns, it just means he more or less decides not to run. And the the GOP would have to find a replacement, right? It doesn't automatically become Pence, right?

https://www.distractify.com/p/what-h...rump-drops-out

According to Rule 9 of the Rules of the Republican Party, if a candidate for president or vice president is no longer able to run due to “death, declination, or otherwise” after the national convention, the RNC may fill the vacancy by a majority vote of its members. They can also reconvene the national convention.

If Trump were to drop out before the convention, which is slated for August 24–27, things might be a bit more open. Ostensibly, Vice President Mike Pence could seek to take over for Trump, which would require Trump's pledged delegates to transfer their support to Pence. This is uncharted territory for the most part, though.

Edit, if for some reason it went to the 2nd place finisher in the primaries, that would go to Bill Weld and his 1 delegate, which he earned in Iowa with 425 votes.

[French Rage]

I saw that over the weekend. Wishful thinking but I don't think it will ever happen. But let's say if did - how does that work? That doesn't mean he resigns, it just means he more or less decides not to run. And the the GOP would have to find a replacement, right? It doesn't automatically become Pence, right?

This all assumes he believes any poll numbers and not was his people are telling him.

[Kepler]

The Thumpers would push for Pence. The Dumpies would fall to whoever he told them to.

I assume they would decide beforehand and then engineer some way to make it look like it was democratic. Be a fun bloodbath, though. Pence has no support within the actual party. I don't know the current players but I have to assume there'd be an Old F-ck like Cornyn, and Young F-ck like Rubio, a Dump F-ck like Jim Jordan, and a What The F-ck like Amash.