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  • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
    The margin of error is bigger than the minimum prediction...that's............well that is effed up.
    No, it isn't...it's how this all works.
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    • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

      Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
      No, it isn't...it's how this all works.
      Then just say they don't know. Don't make a prediction. Or at the very least, just predict a max. Leave out the min.
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      • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
        Then just say they don't know. Don't make a prediction. Or at the very least, just predict a max. Leave out the min.
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        • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          Well before Trump said "60k" the number I saw thrown around the most was "100-200" so she isnt wrong. She, like Fauci, is just telling the world to pay no attention to the moron at the podium.
          The current official government model still only projects 72K deaths, with a confidence range of 60K - 115K. The projection has ranged from 60K-75K after updates for like a month, and it's mostly been on the lower end of that range. It's incredibly disingenous to suggest that the projections were always between 100K and 240K when the current model's projection falls under that range, and almost all of that range falls even outside the confidence range of their model.

          Once the social distancing was enacted no one was talking about six figure deaths, particuarly in the government/CDC.

          If she was being honest she would point out that we're careening back towards those higher numbers because of lapses in social distancing, not that "this was always the prediction".

          Originally posted by The Rube
          Through all of this, although I understand the reason why, is the massive gap between the minimum and maximum projections of deaths....can't someone narrow it down even a little? A +/- of 140K doesn't sit right with me.
          Um....that's +/- 70K. The range is 140K.

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          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            Just because you don’t understand (don’t worry, o don’t either) doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
            That’s an understatement.

            The min is very important as is the entire range. And not just to people like myself with graduate degrees built on this

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            • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              Just because you don’t understand (don’t worry, o don’t either) doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
              I fully admit I have no clue on these predictions. I don't want the reports to go into "scare" mode, and I don't expect them to be dead-on accurate (because we don't really know), I just wish they could narrow it down a little?
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              • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                It’s hard to narrow it down better when so many dumb ****s are stopping distancing and acting like we can reopen. See, the entire south.

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                • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                  It’s hard to narrow it down better when so many dumb ****s are stopping distancing and acting like we can reopen. See, the entire south.
                  Not that I’m disagreeing about much of the South reopening, but when were Colorado, Maine, and Minnesota last considered southern states? Unfortunately, some blue governors and blue states are reopening way too quickly too, and that’s almost what makes it more infuriating for US liberals when we can’t just blame it on stupid Southerners.

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                  • Originally posted by psych View Post
                    Not that I’m disagreeing about much of the South reopening, but when were Colorado, Maine, and Minnesota last considered southern states? Unfortunately, some blue governors and blue states are reopening way too quickly too, and that’s almost what makes it more infuriating for US liberals when we can’t just blame it on stupid Southerners.
                    I used an example, it wasn’t meant to be exhaustive.

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                    • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                      Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                      Through all of this, although I understand the reason why, is the massive gap between the minimum and maximum projections of deaths....can't someone narrow it down even a little? A +/- of 140K doesn't sit right with me.
                      This makes no sense. The spread is what it is because of different potential responses. It's not inexact, it's indeterminate. There's a difference.

                      Edit: I read farther. Rube, this isn't a margin of error. This is the spread in a game where the team hasn't decided whether to play Aaron Rogers or Tim Tebow. If you posit a particular regime of precautions then you get much tighter predictions. It's likely a double hump distribution centered around 100k for staying closed and 240k opening again.

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                      • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                        I guess, predict the maximum. Don't give a minimum. Give us the stark reality. I'd rather have that than a dream, you know?
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                        • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                          Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                          I guess, predict the maximum. Don't give a minimum. Give us the stark reality. I'd rather have that than a dream, you know?
                          Why? They're telling us "if you listen to the morons then 140,000 more of you will die."

                          That's valuable information.
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                          • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Why? They're telling us "if you listen to the morons then 140,000 more of you will die."

                            That's valuable information.
                            Then say that.
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                            • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              Then say that.
                              Call the White House. I'll wait.
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                              • Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Call the White House. I'll wait.
                                You do know who our prez is, right?
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