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  • My $.02:

    1. You do not need a professional to take care of the basics. Don’t pay someone to tell you to pay off your credit cards. That’s like paying a doctor to tell you to lose weight.

    2. If your employment is stable enough, max out contribution to your 401k (whatever max means to you), *even* if it means taking on other short term debt like car loans. If you have $1000 and get it in the market at ~8%, you’ll make $80 this year. Adding $1000 to your car loan at 3% only costs $30, so you come out at +$50 for the year. Just putting the $1000 in the car loan would save you the $30 but you missed out on the opportunity to make $80. Tack on company matches (aka free money) and the potential tax advantage (I say potential, because as others pointed out, we really don’t know how 401k withdrawals will be taxed in the future), and it is a no brainer.

    3. Only engage a professional once you have enough cash flow to invest a meaningful amount beyond the 401k max contribution ($20,500 for 2022). Until then, just stick 100% into the lowest fee option within your 401k (likely index or target date funds) and invest your *time* in something besides retirement planning.
    Last edited by LynahFan; 01-09-2022, 12:18 PM.
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    • Regarding Tesla, I still see them as the groceries.com of the EV market. They control the market segment for now as the early provider to the early adopters, but will get crushed in the long run by Kroger.com, Target.com, Walmart.com, etc. (ie Toyota, GM, etc). The business cycle is a lot longer (annual models vs strawberries that spoil in three days), so the “long run” for Tesla to die is naturally longer, but just as inexorable.
      Last edited by LynahFan; 01-09-2022, 12:20 PM.
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      • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
        Regarding Tesla, I still see them as the groceries.com of the EV market. They control the market segment for now as the early provider to the early adopters, but will get crushed in the long run by Kroger.com, Target.com, Walmart.com, etc. (ie Toyota, GM, etc). The business cycle is a lot longer (annual models vs strawberries that spoil in three days), so the “long run” for Tesla to die is naturally longer, but just as inexorable.
        I'd think their best bet is to build up a lot of expertise and knowledge and then play the big guys against each other when they auction themselves off to one of them.
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

          I'd think their best bet is to build up a lot of expertise and knowledge and then play the big guys against each other when they auction themselves off to one of them.
          Tesla will be a division of Fiat Chrysler by 2030.


          (Or Musk buys FCA just to disrupt the dealership model globally.)
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          • Dave Ramsey: If I price people out of my rental homes, it’s not my fault if they have to move or become homeless, it’s the Invisible Hand’s fault!

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            • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
              Dave Ramsey: If I price people out of my rental homes, it’s not my fault if they have to move or become homeless, it’s the Invisible Hand’s fault!

              https://twitter.com/kelgoretrout/sta...562654721?s=21
              They just need to save more!!

              god he’s trash

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              • Jesus would despise Christians.
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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                  I'd think their best bet is to build up a lot of expertise and knowledge and then play the big guys against each other when they auction themselves off to one of them.
                  Just like my industry. My new management can say all they want about organic growth and not looking for buyers, and that may be true in the near-to-mid future, but until I see otherwise I expect to be working for a major firm again within 5 years via a merger. Same as last time.

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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Jesus would despise Christians.
                    Most of them, yes.

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                    • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                      Tesla will be a division of Fiat Chrysler by 2030.


                      (Or Musk buys FCA just to disrupt the dealership model globally.)
                      That is what I was thinking as well. (Chrysler especially)
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                      • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                        Tesla will be a division of Fiat Chrysler by 2030.


                        (Or Musk buys FCA just to disrupt the dealership model globally.)
                        I really hope we're all still around in 2030.

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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Jesus would despise Christians.
                          Jesus would be asking “hey, where da white women??”
                          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                          • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                            Jesus would be asking “hey, where da white women??”
                            I'm guessing he saw a bunch in Egypt (Ptolemaic Macedonians).
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                            • Did anyone else see the EmptyShelvesBiden trend on Twitter a couple days ago? Bot fueled, almost assuredly, but pretty sure some of the pictures were legit.

                              The number of times Walmart showed up versus other stores was far more of an indictment on Walmart’s logistics than any overarching national supply chain crisis.
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                              • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                                Did anyone else see the EmptyShelvesBiden trend on Twitter a couple days ago? Bot fueled, almost assuredly, but pretty sure some of the pictures were legit.

                                The number of times Walmart showed up versus other stores was far more of an indictment on Walmart’s logistics than any overarching national supply chain crisis.
                                It was definitely bot fueled cause it was going strong at like 1am Central. (which would be like 11am Moscow Time or something) I give Right Wing Twitter this, it tries. The problem is the tricks are old and recognizable and they never adapt them. They need to find bots closer to home.

                                The best was most people were just posting worse pictures of the empty shelves under Trump which is why the hashtag died out.
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