There’s a big difference between a company doing something and a freelancer. Maybe my understanding is wrong but I believe the original opportunity was with some sort of freelancer. They’re not going to buy WC insurance, collect payroll taxes, and send someone a W-2 for a 10 hour a week internship.
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostThere’s a big difference between a company doing something and a freelancer. Maybe my understanding is wrong but I believe the original opportunity was with some sort of freelancer. They’re not going to buy WC insurance, collect payroll taxes, and send someone a W-2 for a 10 hour a week internship.
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Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
By this logic, an entry level job is really just experience and training for your next job. So why should you get paid for that either?
If you are hired for an entry level job, there is at least a hope or expectation that the employee will be with the company for years to come, even though that is not always the case.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
Yeah. I'm having a raging debate with a good friend of mine right now over the $15 minimum wage. He has a son with Down's Syndrome and he worries his son won't be able to find a job if companies have to pay him $15/hr - even he believes that his own son's labor probably really isn't "worth" $15/hr. Other topics have included kids with paper routes and internships (paid and unpaid).
To me, those (real) concerns should have their own remedies - they are no reason to keep millions below the poverty line.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
The difference is this. An internship is usually for a defined period of time. For example, maybe a summer internship, or a year long internship. It is not intended as some sort of ongoing employment relationship.
If you are hired for an entry level job, there is at least a hope or expectation that the employee will be with the company for years to come, even though that is not always the case.
how about this. We all agree all jobs are for a defined period of time, let's say, an hour, and we al agree to pay a minimum amount for that defined length. I'll suggest $15 as a starting point.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
The difference is this. An internship is usually for a defined period of time. For example, maybe a summer internship, or a year long internship. It is not intended as some sort of ongoing employment relationship.
If you are hired for an entry level job, there is at least a hope or expectation that the employee will be with the company for years to come, even though that is not always the case.
It really doesn't seem too different.
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If we didn't have slaves, we'd all be naked!!!Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Even back in the 90s SCSU required all internships sought through the school to be paid. I believe your internship wouldn’t count towards school credit if you weren’t paid."The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostEven back in the 90s SCSU required all internships sought through the school to be paid. I believe your internship wouldn’t count towards school credit if you weren’t paid.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
See hovey, your ****'s so backwards even stearns county thinks it's farked up.
Unpaid internships will be around for so long as people are willing to accept them as reasonable compensation for their labors. If you're a person who doesn't agree it's reasonable compensation, don't apply. It's that simple.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostUnpaid internships will be around for so long as people of wealth are willing to accept them as a chance to get in the door over poorer students. If you're a person who doesn't have the financial means to work for free, then good ****ing luck. It's that simple.
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It's almost as even meritocracies are set up to perpetuate class advantages.Cornell University
National Champion 1967, 1970
ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostUnpaid internships will be around for so long as people are willing to accept them as reasonable compensation for their labors. If you're a person who doesn't agree it's reasonable compensation, don't apply. It's that simple.
-Hovey, Chicago 1905, probablyCode:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
"well, yeah, I don't care if the conditions are terrible. If they don't like it, they can find another job."
-Hovey, Chicago 1905, probably
If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
"well, yeah, I don't care if the conditions are terrible. If they don't like it, they can find another job."
-Hovey, Chicago 1905, probably
Fig. 1 1911 Job Creators
The sickest part of Hovey is there are at 3 SCOTUS justices who have his same attitude towards Lochner.Cornell University
National Champion 1967, 1970
ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020
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