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why don't hedge funds short it when it's at 200x value or whatever to cover their bets? Did they run out of liquidity to maneuver?Huskies are very intelligent and trainable. Huskies make an excellent jogging companion, as long as it is not too hot. Grooming is minimal; bathing is normally unnecessary.
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Originally posted by geezer View Postwhy don't hedge funds short it when it's at 200x value or whatever to cover their bets? Did they run out of liquidity to maneuver?If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?
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Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
If someone on here can explain this to me, I will GrubHub you a steak dinner. I have never found anyone who can explain to me how stock prices are actually set, including my MBA finance professors. They only think at the micro level, on an individual trade basis. What are the macro effects of all the buy and sell orders that are going on? Some simple examples that would illuminate a lot, for me at least:
Example 1: Say price is $50. 5 people say that they want to sell their combined 500 shares. 8 people say that they want to buy a combined total of 400 shares. I presume that the 400 shares trade hands at $50, but there are now an excess of 100 shares that want to be sold. Does that mean that "they" would drop the price to try to attract buyers for those 100 shares? If so, how quickly does the price drop? Do they knock off 1% and wait 1 minute, then drop another 1%? Or is it .1% every 3 seconds?
Example 2: Price is $50. 5 sellers put in standing orders to sell 500 shares at any price over $49. I put in an order to buy 400 shares. I assume I get those shares at $50. Then what happens to the price? Would they drop the price to $49 due to the "excess" standing sell orders, but no lower?
Example 3: Say price is $50. 10 people put in standing orders on 500 shares saying that they'll sell at any price over $55. I put in an order that I want to buy 100 shares, thinking that I'm going to get it for $50. Would "they" raise the price to $55 (due to the "excess" buy demand from me) to make those 100 trades happen (but I pay a 10% higher price than I expected)?
Example 4: Same as example 2, but my buy order included a cap that said I was not willing to pay any more than $50. Would they still raise the price to $51 (even though no trades would happen) since there was a greater signal from investors that the price should go up (as evidenced by the greater number of sell orders at $55 than they have for buy orders at $50)?
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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
Not everyone is like you, Hov.
All joking aside, you can't tell me that there hasn't been some profit taking by these reddit guys, and that they're not sitting there weighing the social justice value of sticking it to the hedge funds with the cash value of selling.Last edited by SJHovey; 02-02-2021, 03:57 PM.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by unofan View Post
Example 1 is easy - 400 shares ....
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Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
That probably explains why the world is as farked up as it is.
All joking aside, you can't tell me that there hasn't been some profit taking by these reddit guys, and that they're not sitting there weighing the social justice value of sticking it to the hedge funds with the cash value of selling.Cornell University
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Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
That probably explains why the world is as farked up as it is.
All joking aside, you can't tell me that there hasn't been some profit taking by these reddit guys, and that they're not sitting there weighing the social justice value of sticking it to the hedge funds with the cash value of selling.U-A-A!!!Go!Go!GreenandGold!
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Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
So in theory hedge fund controllers could sell to each other at ridiculously low prices to 'artificially' drive the price back down? Not sure if that would present a net benefit to them within the current climate for Gamestop but it got me thinking.
I am superbly unsavvy on these matters. I can manage my 401(k) just fine and I have done well with stocks (namely Wal-Mart and a few others) but honestly a lot of this is way over my head.
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Read the article I linked to, they absolutely do that."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by Jimjamesak View PostThese are people that literally call their threads “GME YOLO”. They don’t care about the profit. The minute the hedges started their obvious manipulations is the minute people started saying “I don’t care if I lose $X, f- the hedges!”
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Originally posted by unofan View Post
Because no one ever says one thing on the internet and then does the complete opposite in real life...
Most of this is a guttural populist revolt against the very worst. most damaging actors in our society, who cannot be reached by any other means because all other legal and political avenues have been blocked by bribery. All movements also have cynical manipulators -- witness every crass marketer ever who made money off revolution. But "there exist bad people" does not equal "all people are bad."
And I can get behind people using their numbers to try to execute trades as a more laudable, constructive, and practical solution to inequality than actually executing the rich. For one thing, the daughters of the rich are sometimes redheads, and, unlike the daughters of the poor and middle class, they bathe regularly.
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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
And I can get behind people using their numbers to try to execute trades as a more laudable, constructive, and practical solution to inequality than actually executing the rich. For one thing, the daughters of the rich are sometimes redheads, and, unlike the daughters of the poor and middle class, they bathe regularly.Jordan Kawaguchi for Hobey!!
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This seems sensible.Cornell University
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It certainly seems truthful and likely, but I'm not sure about sensible.
The guy got in early, then bailed way, way too early just so he could pocket $40,000, then got in late and is watching all of his February options at prices in the mid-100s turn to garbage as the days tick by and the stock price tumbles below 100, so he's begging other people to buy to drive up the price.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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