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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    No. Duke is wildly overrated. They are roughly equivalent to schools like Virginia and UNC. They just have enormous dollars behind them to shine up the image, and there is a desperate need to find some southern private school that does not suck. It's all just hype.

    I'm more impressed by UT-Austin than Duke. Maybe even Vandy.

    As someone who has recruited a ton…yes.

    vandy is def better

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    • Duke med and law and decent. I don't know that I'd hire an undergrad from there.
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      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
      Originally posted by Kepler
      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Duke med and law and decent. I don't know that I'd hire an undergrad from there.
        Duke med and law are very good. Professional schools are a completely different story.
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        • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          Duke med and law and decent. I don't know that I'd hire an undergrad from there.
          You wouldn’t hire someone based solely on where they went to school? For real?

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          • Originally posted by psych View Post

            You wouldn’t hire someone based solely on where they went to school? For real?
            I think you know what he meant. He wouldn't consider it particularly a positive.

            For example, if I have an applicant for a STEM position who went to MIT or Cal Tech, hell yes that is a positive.
            Cornell University
            National Champion 1967, 1970
            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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            • Originally posted by psych View Post

              You wouldn’t hire someone based solely on where they went to school? For real?
              When I was hiring for entry level programming positions I wouldn't consider a candidate from Miami as their program was business focused not technical focused. We all knew that going in so any resume from a Miami kid applying for an entry level technical role was rejected outright. However, we hired a ton of business analysts from Miami. But beyond entry level positions I rarely, if ever, considered where they went to school.

              I had one personal exception to rules like that. An Eagle Scout always got a look.

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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                I think you know what he meant. He wouldn't consider it particularly a positive.

                For example, if I have an applicant for a STEM position who went to MIT or Cal Tech, hell yes that is a positive.
                Yes. Correct. For the vast vast majority of schools I'd give them an interview. Some of the better engineers I know went to Nebraska, Iowa state, and (ugh) north *mumble mumble*

                There are just schools that get a much higher preference, like Kepler said

                edit: I'm talking for entry level. Beyond five years, school doesn't matter.
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                College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                Originally posted by SanTropez
                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  edit: I'm talking for entry level. Beyond five years, school doesn't matter.
                  Five may even be generous.
                  Cornell University
                  National Champion 1967, 1970
                  ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                  Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                    Five may even be generous.
                    Situational, but you're probably right.
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                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                      Situational, but you're probably right.
                      Degree is like a new car. Depreciates as you drive it off the lot.
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                      National Champion 1967, 1970
                      ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                      Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                        I think you know what he meant. He wouldn't consider it particularly a positive.

                        For example, if I have an applicant for a STEM position who went to MIT or Cal Tech, hell yes that is a positive.
                        I didn't know what he meant. "I don't know that I'd hire an undergrad from Duke" didn't readily translate into "I would hire an undergrad from Duke, but attending Duke doesn't mean s/he's automatically hired" for me. Now that it's been fleshed out more, I understand. That said, there are certain professions where what school you attended doesn't matter whatsoever.

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                        • Bob Iger is going to make up for the money lost in the strike by raising prices on Hulu and Di$ney+ for various tiers.

                          But hey the stockholders are cleaning up on the failing streaming model...
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            Bob Iger is going to make up for the money lost in the strike by raising prices on Hulu and Di$ney+ for various tiers.

                            But hey the stockholders are cleaning up on the failing streaming model...
                            CNBC reported that Iger said the ad-revenue for streaming is starting to outgrow the revenue from traditional TV advertising. So, despite losing subscribers, they're raking in more from those who subscribe to the cheaper ad-supported model.

                            They basically did in a couple years what took cable TV decades to do: get people to pay a premium and still show them ads. So he needs the strikes to end soon so he can pump out mid level media.


                            He can't step on rakes fast enough when pivoting.
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                            • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                              Bob Iger is going to make up for the money lost in the strike by raising prices on Hulu and Di$ney+ for various tiers.

                              But hey the stockholders are cleaning up on the failing streaming model...
                              Streaming sucks. It was nice at one point as a supplement to cable but the direction everything is going is not good. Sports fans are going to get completely screwed.
                              Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                              Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                              • Originally posted by psych View Post
                                That said, there are certain professions where what school you attended doesn't matter whatsoever.
                                I doubt that is true. I think what is true is that there are professions where the ranking of preparatory education isn't anything like what you would think it is if you just looked at schools' usual prestige.

                                My favorite example is Medieval Philosophy. If you want the best Medieval Philosophy PhD for your faculty, and you know nothing else, you don't go to Harvard or Yale. You go to Rutgers. #2 is Arizona. There is absolutely no way you would ever know that unless you were intimate with the discipline.

                                When I was there and dinosaurs roamed the earth you wouldn't go to any of the Ivies for science except Cornell, and you wouldn't even go to Cornell for science unless it was applied. When I was a grad student the finest Sociology programs in the country included Wisconsin and Indiana before you dropped down to HYP. (I went to Stanford and it turned out to be a terrible mistake and an awful department of just warmed over Harvard people still living off Talcott Parsons). Every decent school has at least one discipline they blow the doors off the Tier One schools. Want to study art, music, or theater? Don't go to Cornell; go over to south hill and Ithaca College.
                                Cornell University
                                National Champion 1967, 1970
                                ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                                Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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