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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

    I would have to think that basic needs are a significant chunk of the economy. The grocery segment alone had $766 Billion in sales in the USA in 2021. That's just a single branch on the Retail tree.
    But is that $766B the final leg with stores selling to human beings for their personal consumption, or does it include interim steps of suppliers and distributers selling to each other?

    The US economy is $25T. So $0.766T is not that much.

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Yea, I guess that is true. I wonder how the Iranians think they can pull it off. Maybe there is a robust underground economy and/or barter system.

    It would be interesting to know what percentage of the US economy is the day to day subsistence of human beings (food, heat, bills, mortgages) as opposed to investment, savings, and luxuries. It would also be interesting to trend line that.

    I wonder how much of the economy actually serves people, as distinct from serving wealth. 50%? 10%? <1%? When the middle class and poor protect property they are thinking in terms of human needs. The rich hide their fortunes behind this deliberate obfuscation, like Agribusiness hiding behind the "family farm," or assault rifles behind a handgun for self-protection, or political bribery behind free speech.
    Given the sanctions I would have to imagine there is a decent underground economy.

    And dx is right, a general strike would solve things pretty quickly. Look how hard they fought to stop the railroads from shutting down. Granted that is a gigantic branch on the supply chain tree, but that’s only 115k people.

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  • JF_Gophers
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    The bigger problem would seem to be getting 150mm people all to stop spending cash at the same time. Even if they can.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Yea, I guess that is true. I wonder how the Iranians think they can pull it off. Maybe there is a robust underground economy and/or barter system.

    It would be interesting to know what percentage of the US economy is the day to day subsistence of human beings (food, heat, bills, mortgages) as opposed to investment, savings, and luxuries. It would also be interesting to trend line that.

    I wonder how much of the economy actually serves people, as distinct from serving wealth. 50%? 10%? <1%? When the middle class and poor protect property they are thinking in terms of human needs. The rich hide their fortunes behind this deliberate obfuscation, like Agribusiness hiding behind the "family farm," or assault rifles behind a handgun for self-protection, or political bribery behind free speech.
    I would have to think that basic needs are a significant chunk of the economy. The grocery segment alone had $766 Billion in sales in the USA in 2021. That's just a single branch on the Retail tree.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

    It's one of those things that may work on paper, but, in society, it won't go anywhere for a while.

    It would be impossible to live your life here without spending dollars.
    Yea, I guess that is true. I wonder how the Iranians think they can pull it off. Maybe there is a robust underground economy and/or barter system.

    It would be interesting to know what percentage of the US economy is the day to day subsistence of human beings (food, heat, bills, mortgages) as opposed to investment, savings, and luxuries. It would also be interesting to trend line that.

    I wonder how much of the economy actually serves people, as distinct from serving wealth. 50%? 10%? <1%? When the middle class and poor protect property they are thinking in terms of human needs. The rich hide their fortunes behind this deliberate obfuscation, like Agribusiness hiding behind the "family farm," or assault rifles behind a handgun for self-protection, or political bribery behind free speech.

    Last edited by Kepler; 12-15-2022, 08:45 AM.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The Iranian protesters have apparently begun withdrawing their savings and buying gold en masse as part of a plan to destabilize the economy and pressure the middle class to demand a new government.

    I was wondering: if say an unabashed Nazi government took over the US, and 60% of the population was against it, what would happen if everyone started dumping their dollars and buying anything else -- other currencies, precious metals, property, whatever. Could we as a people sink the dollar? Would that be an effective way to fight our own government?
    It's one of those things that may work on paper, but, in society, it won't go anywhere for a while.

    It would be impossible to live your life here without spending dollars.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The Iranian protesters have apparently begun withdrawing their savings and buying gold en masse as part of a plan to destabilize the economy and pressure the middle class to demand a new government.

    I was wondering: if say an unabashed Nazi government took over the US, and 60% of the population was against it, what would happen if everyone started dumping their dollars and buying anything else -- other currencies, precious metals, property, whatever. Could we as a people sink the dollar? Would that be an effective way to fight our own government?
    General strike. The world would shut down in about a week.

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  • Handyman
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    Musk banned the account that tracked his jet under new rules...rules he is now violating by attempting to dox people and trying to get his psychos to go after them.

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  • Kepler
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    The Iranian protesters have apparently begun withdrawing their savings and buying gold en masse as part of a plan to destabilize the economy and pressure the middle class to demand a new government.

    I was wondering: if say an unabashed Nazi government took over the US, and 60% of the population was against it, what would happen if everyone started dumping their dollars and buying anything else -- other currencies, precious metals, property, whatever. Could we as a people sink the dollar? Would that be an effective way to fight our own government?

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  • dxmnkd316
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    It's all public information. You can literally go to any of the major trackers and do this. You can even have them email you for alerts on a plane.

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  • aparch
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    Elon has also gone back on his word and blocked the Twitter account that tracked his private jet despite telling the kid he wouldn't.

    (Also claimed that it was a personal risk to have that info exposed, but wanted to keep the account active. The irony is dually noted.)

    The real interesting thing is that a few other flight tracker Twitter accounts were also suspended. Accounts that tracked the Russian Oligarchs airplanes.

    https://twitter.com/ThingSandwich/st...62545421832192

    Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmmmm......"

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  • ticapnews
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    So Elon thinks the reason he was roundly booed at the Chapelle show is because of a "woke mind virus."

    Suddenly it becomes clear why he wants to put a microchip in everyone's brain. So we will all cheer and applaud and adore him 24/7. Ironic that many of his devotees think Bill Gates wanted to use the Coronavirus vaccine to chip everyone and they hate him for it but the guy they worship actually does want to microchip them and they love him all the more for it.

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  • ticapnews
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post
    Ads are all over this site but if thats how the site funds itself so be it. I've never seen anything lewd on here??? I have battery ads and tool ads.
    With enough imagination anything can be lewd.

    Rule 34.

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  • Handyman
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    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1...kmUAevmFg&s=19

    HSBC to stop funding new oil and gas fields as part of policy overhaul

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
    The way the Adsense algorithm works is by looking at other recent searches or purchases you've made and serving up ads related to those. That's why I am looking at ads for hotels, airlines and computer accessories.
    Wrong. Not if you use private relays, block cookies, and random hardware addresses. This is the only site I see those ads. Most of the time I get monoprice, Amazon, tech, alcohol, travel, or other relevant ads. But not this site. Just scantily clad women.

    You can actually click into your profile and see ehy it was served. It doesn't have a profile for me. It says this is a general sports site, forum. So therefore everyone is an incel.
    Last edited by dxmnkd316; 12-14-2022, 08:31 AM.

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