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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    Originally posted by E.J. Smith View Post
    I admire his knowledge and his presentation skills but his information related to R0 was a bit flawed. He took the high end of 3 on Covid-19 and the low end of 1 on influenza. In reality, they seem to be very similar to each other, somewhere more between 2-3. Not sure why he did that other than it setup a dramatic, exponential curve for for Covid-19 and a flat line for influenza.

    In 2019-20, to date, roughly 10,000 people have died from Covid-19 while 30,000 have died from influenza. That comparison will no doubt flip but let's not just write off influenza as some slow moving little nuisance. Tens of thousands of people die from the flu in this country every year.
    I have never seen a number for seasonal flu that his higher than 1.5 and and 1.5 to 2.5 is a huge difference.
    After 10 iterations influenza patient zero has infected 58 people, covid-19 has infected 9,536. Obviously 1 and 3 are extremes but its not like they're that far off from reality. Even if you go down to 2 for covid-19 you're looking at 1024 vs 58.

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  • E.J. Smith
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I also posted this on the regular thread. The best medical description of the disease I have seen.
    I admire his knowledge and his presentation skills but his information related to R0 was a bit flawed. He took the high end of 3 on Covid-19 and the low end of 1 on influenza. In reality, they seem to be very similar to each other, somewhere more between 2-3. Not sure why he did that other than it setup a dramatic, exponential curve for for Covid-19 and a flat line for influenza.

    In 2019-20, to date, roughly 10,000 people have died from Covid-19 while 30,000 have died from influenza. That comparison will no doubt flip but let's not just write off influenza as some slow moving little nuisance. Tens of thousands of people die from the flu in this country every year.

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  • Kepler
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    I also posted this on the regular thread. The best medical description of the disease I have seen.

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  • leswp1
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    CDC disease portal page
    https://phgkb.cdc.gov/PHGKB/coVInfoS...C_16_1-DM24883

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    Has anyone in Minnesota lost their job or had their hours reduced?
    My brother-in-law closed his bar after trying to stay open as a takeout restaurant. That wasn’t working. He has/had about 20 employees.

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  • The Rube
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    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    Has anyone in Minnesota lost their job or had their hours reduced?
    The exact opposite. Given my job...work gonna be crazy for a while.

    Half of what Scarlet said is false from what I know. The "hard" surfaces, like steel/etc, it's 3 days. Cardboard, 1 day. Copper, a few hours. And that is with all factors in a perfect condition to spread the virus.

    Yes, wash hands often. Limited contact. Basic stuff.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    This has been debunked. THey keep changing the attribution but it has been around for weeks now
    Yeah I was gonna say, this was debunked weeks ago when I was still leaving my house

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  • leswp1
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    especially the holding your breath part of things
    I have seen an researcher uncle, someone working at the CDC, Chinese, Korean, Italian Drs, French Researcher to name just a few.

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    This has been debunked. THey keep changing the attribution but it has been around for weeks now
    especially the holding your breath part of things

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  • leswp1
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    This has been debunked. THey keep changing the attribution but it has been around for weeks now

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
    Some interesting tips. Not sure how valid they are:

    Doctors are reporting they now understand the behavior of the COVID 19 virus due to autopsies that they have carried out. This virus is characterized by obstructing respiratory pathways with thick mucus that solidifies and blocks the airways and lungs. So they have discovered that in order to apply a medicine you have to open and unblock these airways so that the treatment can be used to take effect however all of this takes a number of days. Their recommendations for what you can do to safeguard yourself are ...

    1) Drink lots of hot liquids - coffees, soups, teas, warm water. In addition take a sip of warm water every 20 minutes bc this keeps your mouth moist and washes any of the virus that’s entered your mouth into your stomach where your gastric juices will neutralize it before it can get to the lungs.
    2) Gargle with an antiseptic and warm water like vinegar or salt or lemon every day if possible
    3) The virus attaches itself to hair and clothes. And detergent or soap kills it but you must take bath or shower when you get in from the street. Avoid sitting down in your home and go straight to the shower. If you cannot wash your clothes daily, hang them in sunlight which also helps to neutralize the virus
    4) Wash metallic surfaces very carefully bc the virus can stay viable on these for up to 9 days. Take note and be vigilant about touching hand rails, door knobs, etc. and keep these clean in home home
    5) Don’t smoke
    6) Wash your hands every 20 minutes with any soap that foams and do this for 20 seconds
    7) Eat fruits and vegetables. Try to elevate your zinc levelS
    8)Animals do not spread the virus to people. Its a person to person transmission.
    9)Try to avoid getting the common flu as this already weakens your system and try to avoid eating and drinking any cold things.
    10) If you feel any discomfort in your throat or a sore throat coming on, attack it immediately using the above methods. The virus enters the system through the throat but will sit in the throat for 3-4 days before it passes into your lungs.

    In addition ...

    Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.
    uhm...ok

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  • Scarlet
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    Some interesting tips. Not sure how valid they are:

    Doctors are reporting they now understand the behavior of the COVID 19 virus due to autopsies that they have carried out. This virus is characterized by obstructing respiratory pathways with thick mucus that solidifies and blocks the airways and lungs. So they have discovered that in order to apply a medicine you have to open and unblock these airways so that the treatment can be used to take effect however all of this takes a number of days. Their recommendations for what you can do to safeguard yourself are ...

    1) Drink lots of hot liquids - coffees, soups, teas, warm water. In addition take a sip of warm water every 20 minutes bc this keeps your mouth moist and washes any of the virus that’s entered your mouth into your stomach where your gastric juices will neutralize it before it can get to the lungs.
    2) Gargle with an antiseptic and warm water like vinegar or salt or lemon every day if possible
    3) The virus attaches itself to hair and clothes. And detergent or soap kills it but you must take bath or shower when you get in from the street. Avoid sitting down in your home and go straight to the shower. If you cannot wash your clothes daily, hang them in sunlight which also helps to neutralize the virus
    4) Wash metallic surfaces very carefully bc the virus can stay viable on these for up to 9 days. Take note and be vigilant about touching hand rails, door knobs, etc. and keep these clean in home home
    5) Don’t smoke
    6) Wash your hands every 20 minutes with any soap that foams and do this for 20 seconds
    7) Eat fruits and vegetables. Try to elevate your zinc levelS
    8)Animals do not spread the virus to people. Its a person to person transmission.
    9)Try to avoid getting the common flu as this already weakens your system and try to avoid eating and drinking any cold things.
    10) If you feel any discomfort in your throat or a sore throat coming on, attack it immediately using the above methods. The virus enters the system through the throat but will sit in the throat for 3-4 days before it passes into your lungs.

    In addition ...

    Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Re: COVID Resource thread- places to get resources, information or help

    Has anyone in Minnesota lost their job or had their hours reduced?

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d...m884ByWIdnJbxY

    I think this video explains in great detail what the big deal is with this virus. I see people still to this day posting death numbers for flu and other things downplaying how dangerous this virus is and is going to be for a while.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    This paper is interesting. Calls for a "Hammer" for about 2 months to get the virus under control. The map on mutations was informative.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-be9337092b56
    That's a good piece; thank you.

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