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Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
Wait, what? They were that aggressive?
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Working with autistic kids feels amazing, but there are times I have to take evasive action, like when a kid attempts to rip my mask off my head.Facebook: bcowles920 Instagram: missthundercat01
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Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
I'd have to think that growing a small firm from X to X2 is quite a feather to have in your cap for your next move, even if it does get sold to a corporate cube farm type establishment. You are starting at a much higher level with the next step if that goes through. If not, you can still fall back on your current standing with experience in what didn't work out and why.
I'd take the risk on the smaller firm with more growth potential. But I'm not a consultant nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, lol.
And while I see the solution was made for Fade by company 2- the one thing I would also consider is how much effort is needed to expand from 20 to 200 to 2000 people? How many 80 hour work weeks will be required?
While I'd be happy to work 100% for 40 hours all day long, with the occasional 80 hour week (maybe once a quarter at most, though), if you have to live work, I would seriously consider if it's worth it.
Work to live, or live to work?
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The older I get, the more protective I am of my time.
probably because the older I get, the lower my ceiling gets.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
Maybe I'm too old school, having worked for the same company for my entire career- but do people get jobs with the view of what the next job will be? Is the "in" think to chase jobs constantly? Seems like stability over a long run would be less stressful.
It's also a consequence of at-will employment and the Harvard MBA "just need the next quarter to look good" mindset. If they can fire/lay you off with little to no notice because Wall Street needs an earnings beat, then you don't owe them any loyalty in return.
You're 100% right that stability would be better for all parties long term. But such is the current way of American capitalism. They try to pay us as little as possible, so in return they get as little work as possible.Last edited by unofan; 10-05-2021, 08:28 AM.
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Originally posted by unofan View Post
While I have had the same government employer for my entire legal career, I'm with my 3rd different agency (4th if you count my judicial clerkships). For better or for worse, this is how the modern economy works. Employers don't give raises/promotions/etc. to current employees nearly as well or as large as external hires. So if you want to climb up the economic ladder, you have to be willing to jump ship.
It's also a consequence of at-will employment and the Harvard MBA "just need the next quarter to look good" mindset. If they can fire/lay you off with little to no notice because Wall Street needs an earnings beat, then you don't owe them any loyalty in return.
You're 100% right that stability would be better for all parties long term. But such is the current way of American capitalism. They try to pay us as little as possible, so in return they get as little work as possible.
I absolutely hate the current version of capitalism.
In terms of workers, it really puts a fine focus on the propaganda that workers are the most important. One more reason I look so foreword to next May.
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Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View PostMy current company is paying new hires 40-50k more and they won’t raise tenured people up. It’s horrific
I have no desire to leave any legacy other than separating work from life.
What's really sad about that- I work in the auto industry, and came in as a massive gear head/ auto enthusiast. They never really took advantage of that, and now I know the reality of working for a massive company.
Anyway, it's interesting how things have changed- I have seen multiple people come and go over the last few years. I may have lost out WRT money, but I'm happy, and we are quite secure for the future.
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Originally posted by unofan View PostEmployers don't give raises/promotions/etc. to current employees nearly as well or as large as external hires. So if you want to climb up the economic ladder, you have to be willing to jump ship.
It's also a consequence of at-will employment and the Harvard MBA "just need the next quarter to look good" mindset. If they can fire/lay you off with little to no notice because Wall Street needs an earnings beat, then you don't owe them any loyalty in return.
You're 100% right that stability would be better for all parties long term. But such is the current way of American capitalism. They try to pay us as little as possible, so in return they get as little work as possible.
The first one I had done a co-op with and stayed there for 6 years until I got laid off. I was young and getting my feet under me. The check processer industry was old and going away. I don't know how long I would have tried to ride it out, but the company didn't last much longer.
Then I did automotive for a year and hated it. Boring, small job scope (supplier quality). Stayed long enough to get automotive experience, because as an engineer in SE MI, every interview I kept hearing "I wish you had automotive experience"
Next moved to small 50 person company, was the whole quality department. Loved that job. Was there for 5 years.... 0.00% raise. Not a single one. 5 years. With inflation and bills increasing, I was pocketing less money each year. Asked boss for a raise, he did nothing. I left and got an 18% raise.
Turns out while I liked the money, I hated that automotive job too. A year later found the current job, got a 9% raise and am pretty happy at my current employer. In the 3 years so far, they've given out raises that at least keep up with inflation, often more. Also got myself a promotion.
Ask some of our production employees here and they will tell a different story. Guys with 15 years experience making the same as the temp that just got hired. We're struggling to hire enough production workers, so there's a bunch of incentives for new hires, but I don't think enough is being done to retain the current employees. We've lost several employees in the last year to other jobs.
Moral of the story, no loyalty from employees because there's no loyalty from employers.Originally posted by West Texas Wolverine
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If you work in engineering at GM, I could see where you can still carve out 30 years of steady career progress there. In IT (and many other sectors), you can't sit around waiting if you're hoping to advance, get paid properly, and stay relevant. Plus there's always mediocre-to-bad management, poorly-defined job responsibilities, etc. which eventually drive people to leave any organization that doesn't address those issues.
I don't consider myself a "job hopper", and in fact I think you'd find that my average of 5 years at one employer is pretty dang loyal in this space right now.Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 10-05-2021, 10:26 AM.
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Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View PostMy current company is paying new hires 40-50k more and they won’t raise tenured people up. It’s horrific
They have massive growth plans, and it just feels like the whole practice is being turned into a sales factory where the SOWs get packed with whatever the customer is remotely interested in, and then renegotiated later once it becomes clear that the client wasn't mature enough for XYZ and we won't meet our deadlines.
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Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View PostMy current company is paying new hires 40-50k more and they won’t raise tenured people up. It’s horrificCode:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
Gee, that sounds familiar...Cornell University
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Yesterday, I had a kiddo try to grab my badge, my necklace, my shirt, and my leggings. After the shirt and leggings, I retreated to a safe observation distance.
Downside of the job. After he did that, I was drained for the rest of the session.Facebook: bcowles920 Instagram: missthundercat01
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