Antiwork

[dxmnkd316]

One way is for a company to say that you get your full allotment of Benefits on Jan. 1 but that it's projected that you work a full year to earn them back.

Almost every year, my company (which has a pretty high turnover rate) will have someone take their 2-5 weeks of paid time off starting on Jan 1. and then quit after working just a handful of days in the new year. Depending on that individual's standing or whatever factor they use to determine who they go after, they can send the employee a bill asking for every cent back, as it's accrued over the course of a year. And they will absolutely take this to court/collections with some people.

Actually that makes sense. We're allotted our entire year of vacation on Jan 1. They'll prorate you if you leave early.

LTD though seems odd.

[WisconsinWildcard]

Actually that makes sense. We're allotted our entire year of vacation on Jan 1. They'll prorate you if you leave early.

LTD though seems odd.

Certainly unsure on the specifics, but one possibility is that most LTD has a waiting period built into the policy (say 90 days). Work may be paying through the 90 days until LTD kicks in. At my job, I would be on my own until the 90 day waiting period (or at least plan that I would).

[Swansong]

Ironically I’m looking to leave healthcare industry and get into climate.

I was done with healthcare prior to Covid but didn’t realize how done with it I truly am.

this might sound cliche, but cliches are probably part of why I felt like it was ok to be “stuck” where I was for so long. I’m truly looking at this as chance to do something really different. Ask myself some hard questions- do I really want to be at a corp with this stress, comp, equity, bonus etc? I think I’d rather make less and be a little happier and less stressed. Early to mid 40s with no dependents means I can take a risk. In ten years it would be tougher.

but it will take some time to break into a new industry.

You got this!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Agreed. 2014 I was depressed to "let's stay in bed until 4 PM" levels.

And now that I see my current employer is kinda cheap with their disability leave policies, I'm already on the prowl. Other mental health agencies are looking at me. My own employer wants me to try again for Foster Care Case Management and other positions.

I've also learned the value of having side jobs and things I can do for extra cash. Driving for Uber Eats has been a lifesaver, especially when I'm paid biweekly.

Too bad you don't live on this side of the state. My wife and I would happily give you cash *ahem* "donations" for grocery and food delivery, some baking & meal prepping, pet/housesitting, etc.

[Kepler]

Oops.

I was just backchannel chatting with a work friend during a meeting, because that's all anybody does during Skype meetings. I was writing to coworker X that her voice pattern is the same as a co-worker Y's, except Y's pitch is lower. So, I wrote "Y is like you, if you play a 45 on a 33."

I thought about it the second after I hit send.

Their ages match perfectly.

[MissThundercat]

Too bad you don't live on this side of the state. My wife and I would happily give you cash *ahem* "donations" for grocery and food delivery, some baking & meal prepping, pet/housesitting, etc.

If I moved over there, I will happily take you up on this offer. Because Uber Eats can either be really good or really bad, depending on the day.

[MissThundercat]

Thinking of changing jobs. Forest View is the Grand Rapids mental health facility where the severe cases are.

Drawbacks: it would make my current job feel like a holiday, and while they offer short term disability (something my current employer does not), their starting pay per hour is not mentioned on their website.

[Scarlet]

One of the women on my team is leaving the company to pursue a career in interior design. She's already started her business. During the pandemic, she and her family moved to North Carolina. On my team of 13 people, five (including her) live out of state/work remotely. Which I have no problem with. However, my belief is you give up some things when you do that. We are having a goodbye thingie for her this afternoon. She flew up to Boston. I'm assuming it's on the company dime. In addition, one of her direct reports flew up as well. From New Mexico. We've been told the past two months that the company is having a bad year, we're selling off some of our international operations, there was a big re-structure in July and positions were eliminated, plus we're hearing of more layoffs in October. Yet these two get to fly to Boston for an hour long good bye party. I'm sorry - to me, this is one of those things that you give up when you work remotely. Even if the company was having a banner year.

ETA - I was just told that in addition to this goodbye thingie, we're all leaving the office at 2:00pm to go ride the swan boats. Which I'd love to do, but still...

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

One of the women on my team is leaving the company to pursue a career in interior design. She's already started her business. During the pandemic, she and her family moved to North Carolina. On my team of 13 people, five (including her) live out of state/work remotely. Which I have no problem with. However, my belief is you give up some things when you do that. We are having a goodbye thingie for her this afternoon. She flew up to Boston. I'm assuming it's on the company dime. In addition, one of her direct reports flew up as well. From New Mexico. We've been told the past two months that the company is having a bad year, we're selling off some of our international operations, there was a big re-structure in July and positions were eliminated, plus we're hearing of more layoffs in October. Yet these two get to fly to Boston for an hour long good bye party. I'm sorry - to me, this is one of those things that you give up when you work remotely. Even if the company was having a banner year.

ETA - I was just told that in addition to this goodbye thingie, we're all leaving the office at 2:00pm to go ride the swan boats. Which I'd love to do, but still...

I agree. I've participated in BYOB "farewell" hours on Zoom, and hosted one when I left my last employer, but that's it. Flying in remote employees just for that is absurd and a waste of money.

[dxmnkd316]

Holy ****. That's unreal. I can't believe they're flying them to say toodles. We need VP level approval to fly, which itself is insane.

[Kepler]

I would not want to ship people in for my farewell, and I doubt she did either. I assume this is management getting people in when they're over a barrel and can't refuse.

Company wants to show some respect for a departing employee and their team? Give the departee extra money, and give the team raises. Or shut up and stop pretending.

[Scarlet]

Oh of course she wanted it. They did make the two of them work while here - met with the agency they deal with and the other person on the team who is absorbing this person's responsibilities (they're not filling the position) to discuss transition of responsibilities, etc. She and her two direct reports all work remotely. The second one is just coming back from maternity leave and couldn't travel otherwise I would imagine she would have been here as well. She's not quitting, she is changing careers, starting her own business. It's all very lovey dovey. I wouldn't have minded if they did all this if she lived here (as well as her direct report). It's more that the two of them flew here. We have a big department meeting in October for which they are flying in remote employees (that doesn't bother me at all - I'm actually glad they do that). If the direct report woman comes back for that as well, that's just a waste of company resources.

[St. Clown]

My wife works for a non-profit that is 90% funded by a particularly wealthy man from MN. He has a few foundations/non-profits in town and the president who ran my wife’s org when she was hired left back in June. My wife’s direct boss reports to the president, currently an interim president. My wife’s boss is now her former boss as of this afternoon. The interim President is exceedingly bad, offering no leadership, and my wife’s former boss would ask him questions expected of a president. The interim would freeze and not offer an answer. Apparently, (my take on this) the interim was tired of being called out for his complete lack of leadership that he canned my wife’s (former) boss who might’ve been their singular most important expert the organization had in that field.

They informed my wife of the firing ona letting right after it happened. They offered her severance if she’d like to follow or she’d have to “commit 100%” to the organization to help fill the new void. She has until 3:30pm tomorrow to give her answer. She sent an email asking about details on the severance, and stated that if she’s going to stay on that she’s need a raise to offset the additional work load and stress. I’ll find out tomorrow if my wife is newly unemployed.

She’s not said it blatantly yet, but I expect the job search will happen regardless.

[Kepler]

My wife works for a non-profit that is 90% funded by a particularly wealthy man from MN.

Artist's conception

[St. Clown]

Artist's conception

There’s not enough of a big yellow price tag logo to his suit.