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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I rarely spend more than 40 work hours in my office, but ever since my first company issued laptop it's not uncommon to put in a few extra hours each week from home. This is what happens when you have a career that matters.

    I keed, I keed
    I know the comment about your career mattering is made in jest, but this is a real thing...

    I work in logistics in the grocery world... Without me y'all aren't getting many of the products you use daily on the store shelves... And currently the industry is at a labor breaking point... Someone's gonna have to pay up and cut into profits pretty soon if they want to stay afloat and viable.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    It's coming to a head where us workers have the power (I've seen a 21% wage increase since Nov. 2019 for just showing up). And at my job, we're gonna need another boost to stay viable pretty soon...
    Every day, in every way, organize, organize, organize.

    And if possible, self-organize. Have it grow from the bottom up, and hold on to your power. The last people you should trust are well-meaning but soft-handed people like me who are allies but do not have skin in the game. We'll always abandon you the second it becomes personally inconvenient.

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  • Slap Shot
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    I rarely spend more than 40 work hours in my office, but ever since my first company issued laptop it's not uncommon to put in a few extra hours each week from home. This is what happens when you have a career that matters.

    I keed, I keed

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    So as much as you despise manual labor, I'm just riding the wave and actually have excess cash for the first time in my life. I just have to be aware of the standards that aren't going away.
    I don't despise manual labor, I despise coerced labor. And I don't despise the laborer, I have nothing but sympathy. They are slaves. Who could despise a slave? One despises the people who enslave them and live off them.

    If I ruled the world
    I'd free all my sons
    And we'd dine on the entrails of the owners who oppressed them

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    It is.

    Working 40 is "pulling crap"? Interesting perspective.

    I understand that blue collar workers are slaves who have to follow their fascist owners' whims. And we should plow those owners under. But white collar employees who martyr themselves to their jobs are either getting something from their narcissistic vanity posturing, or they are dopes.
    It's more of the "get this done or else" mentality that is served in the Service/Retail industry. If you can't do the job you would be ejected for a new body in the chamber... This is the root of the whole "Great Resignation" debate...

    It's coming to a head where us workers have the power (I've seen a 21% wage increase since Nov. 2019 for just showing up). And at my job, we're gonna need another boost to stay viable pretty soon...

    So as much as you despise manual labor, I'm just riding the wave and actually have excess cash for the first time in my life. I just have to be aware of the standards that aren't going away.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

    Must be nice to have a job where you can pull crap like that and not get in trouble (and eventually termed) for that...
    It is.

    Working 40 is "pulling crap"? Interesting perspective.

    I understand that blue collar workers are slaves who have to follow their fascist owners' whims. And we should plow those owners under, give all their wealth to those workers, and then change our economic system so they are never abused like that again.

    But white collar employees who martyr themselves to their jobs are either getting something from their narcissistic vanity posturing, or they are dopes.

    Exception: doctors and public defenders and teachers and emergency responders in general. Instances in which work actually has some meaning often have long hours, and the people who work them are heroes.

    But if you're a broker or a corporate lawyer or a businessdrone who does that? You're an idiot.

    There is no more honor in work than in a convict serving his term.

    Last edited by Kepler; 03-16-2022, 11:49 AM.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I have religiously worked no more than 40 hours since entering my industry in 2003.

    Fucker's aint getting one more minute of my life than I must give them. If they overpromise work from our team that's their problem to explain to their bosses.

    I *may* have slowed down productivity in the past to express a philosophical difference with leadership.

    It's a job, it's not important. It's just an annoying fact of living, like sh-tting.

    Let the people who get rich off my life sentence get just a little less rich.
    Must be nice to have a job where you can pull crap like that and not get in trouble (and eventually termed) for that...

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  • Scarlet
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I have religiously worked no more than 40 hours since entering my industry in 2003.

    Fucker's aint getting one more minute of my life than I must give them. If they overpromise work from our team that's their problem to explain to their bosses.

    I *may* have slowed down productivity in the past to express a philosophical difference with leadership.

    It's a job, it's not important. It's just an annoying fact of living, like sh-tting.

    Let the people who get rich off my life sentence get just a little less rich.
    I like this. I need to print it out and tape to my cube.

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  • burd
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    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
    If there's a better thread...

    That is so good.

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  • Kepler
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    I have religiously worked no more than 40 hours since entering my industry in 2003.

    Fucker's aint getting one more minute of my life than I must give them. If they overpromise work from our team that's their problem to explain to their bosses.

    I *may* have slowed down productivity in the past to express a philosophical difference with leadership.

    It's a job, it's not important. It's just an annoying fact of living, like sh-tting.

    Let the people who get rich off my life sentence get just a little less rich.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    As long as we cover core hours they don't care. Much.
    Core are usually 10-3. You are still expected to work 8 but even that's fungible in both directions. If you regularly get your work done, you aren't chained to a desk.

    That said, it's usually 45-50/wk for me. Usually 8:30-5:30, sometimes more, sometimes less. The bad weeks are awful though.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post

    They did, and often do (though 9 often becomes 8 or 8:30 and 5 is as likely to become 4 as it is 6).


    I have a 9-5 job, although I haven't worked only 40 hours in some time. I go out of my way to limit hours worked (working from home means you're just a room away...), but even though I may technically "start checking out" at 5, I'm almost always on until 5:30-6 when my girlfriend peels me away. And today I got started at 8 for a meeting (holy hell, scheduling a bunch of oncology and pharmacy staff it difficult). I have meetings until 6:30 today.
    Depends on the work sector...

    But for most Millenials, that is some forgotten myth of the past, ha ha...

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  • Swansong
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    Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
    Worked 12 hours yesterday. Thankfully, this is not a regular thing. Today I am tired and unfocused. Further cements my opinion that I'd like my health care providers to not be working long hours.

    Question: when the song/movie '9 to 5' came out, did people actually work those hours? I have never started work that late, nor had just 8 hours without a lunch time added
    They did, and often do (though 9 often becomes 8 or 8:30 and 5 is as likely to become 4 as it is 6).


    I have a 9-5 job, although I haven't worked only 40 hours in some time. I go out of my way to limit hours worked (working from home means you're just a room away...), but even though I may technically "start checking out" at 5, I'm almost always on until 5:30-6 when my girlfriend peels me away. And today I got started at 8 for a meeting (holy hell, scheduling a bunch of oncology and pharmacy staff it difficult). I have meetings until 6:30 today.

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  • wolverineTrumpet
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    Worked 12 hours yesterday. Thankfully, this is not a regular thing. Today I am tired and unfocused. Further cements my opinion that I'd like my health care providers to not be working long hours.

    Question: when the song/movie '9 to 5' came out, did people actually work those hours? I have never started work that late, nor had just 8 hours without a lunch time added

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  • MissThundercat
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    Can I tell my boss "sounds like a personal problem" the next time she asks me to come in on my day off?

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