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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    No dogs want to work anymore.

    im not gonna give them handouts

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    Originally posted by bronconick View Post


    ...wow.
    Are the dogs ****ed they won’t get a pension?

    Is this some weird government waste argument because they put the money in to train dogs that will no longer be needed?

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  • Handyman
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    That is why the GOP is a joke here...

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  • bronconick
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    Minnesota State Sen. John Jasinski (R) argues against legalizing marijuana because it will result in early retirement for drug-sniffing dogs: "The police dog discussion ... that's a big issue."

    ...wow.

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  • psych
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    Kentucky Supreme Court dismisses the lawsuit brought by abortion providers and ACLU to halt the implementation of our insanely restrictive abortion laws due to lack of standing, but opens the door for women actually harmed by the law to sue. Not that I expect that to get anywhere, but stay tuned, I guess.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Texas, finding ways to try and enact the same thing over and over

    https://***********/mcgeereports/sta...ZQUNk9MylECuIg

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Ontario Teachers Pension Fund says hi.
    The problem with union funds or retirement funds or things like this is that they are conservative. They have to be conservative. I don't think we'd want them to be any other way. They need a return, but they also have to be there for the retirees.

    Real financing can be pretty risky. For every Microsoft or Apple there are a thousand or more ideas that died a merciful death. That's why you need private financing, and why it works.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Oh the shareholder cycle is the best.

    infinite, continuous growth! Always! And if things dip for a quarter or two, do mass layoffs so the stock can recover and the execs pocket more money. Then six months later they need to rehire people which costs more money

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    The problem is, when we tried letting workers unions serve as the financiers, all we got out of the deal were some crappy Vegas casinos.
    You leave Vegas out of this!!

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    Yeah, I get it. It's always dangerous to lump everyone together, although I don't think I'm alone here in that regard. That said, I find amusing the whole lament, "if I could just kill capitalism and corporations, and eliminate the need for my friends and I to work, we'd have so much more time to play video games together."
    Capitalism isn't the problem...greed is. Capitalism is like anything else, it is only as good as the people involved. Corporations and people suck.

    Listen, I'm all for companies making money...but why should we all suffer while ExxonMobil makes ridiculous record profits every quarter? That is what is triggering almost all of inflation...profiteering. They could cut net profits by a third and inflation disappears next quarter. Instead we incentivize them to push for even more...

    This country is filled with people and corporations who have zero sense of civic responsibility. The hypocrisy is rampant and no one cares as long as they get theirs.
    Last edited by Handyman; 02-16-2023, 12:34 PM.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    All joking about Vegas casinos aside, you are right that production can be financed by a variety of other parties or organizations, like government, unions, etc... In fact, nothing is preventing it right now.

    The problem is, they suck at it. Independent financing works because of the profit motive, and because decisions are made by small groups of people or individuals, not Senates.
    Ontario Teachers Pension Fund says hi.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Independent financing is a cancer that requires infinite, unsustainable growth, exploitation, and environmental destruction.
    Yep. Agree on all counts. Wall Street is a cesspool. Regulate the **** out of it.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    All joking about Vegas casinos aside, you are right that production can be financed by a variety of other parties or organizations, like government, unions, etc... In fact, nothing is preventing it right now.

    The problem is, they suck at it. Independent financing works because of the profit motive, and because decisions are made by small groups of people or individuals, not Senates.
    Independent financing is a cancer that requires infinite, unsustainable growth, exploitation, and environmental destruction.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    No, capitalism is financing of production with independent investors. Production can be financed in other ways (government, anarcho-syndicalism, workers unions, granges, consumer unions). Independent financing sucks because it separates the interests of the financiers from the producers and consumers. Move financing power to the latter pair and the former is an unnecessary parasite. It is directly analogous to the persistence of a feudal aristocracy after they were displaced by technological and economic advances. We have now technologically and economically advanced to where the financial sector is an atavism that just immiserates the majority.

    I still want you to keep whatever sweatshop you run. I assume from your statements that in addition to being the owner you are also the primary worker and producer of real value. That's A-OK with me, you're golden in my new world order.

    I love Main Street. Wall Street has to die.


    All joking about Vegas casinos aside, you are right that production can be financed by a variety of other parties or organizations, like government, unions, etc... In fact, nothing is preventing it right now.

    The problem is, they suck at it. Independent financing works because of the profit motive, and because decisions are made by small groups of people or individuals, not Senates.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    No, capitalism is financing of production with independent investors. Production can be financed in other ways (government, anarcho-syndicalism, workers unions, granges, consumer unions). Independent financing sucks because it separates the interests of the financiers from the producers and consumers. Move financing power to the latter pair and the former is an unnecessary parasite. It is directly analogous to the persistence of a feudal aristocracy after they were displaced by technological and economic advances. We have now technologically and economically advanced to where the financial sector is an atavism that just immiserates the majority.

    I still want you to keep whatever sweatshop you run. I assume from your statements that in addition to being the owner you are also the primary worker and producer of real value. That's A-OK with me, you're golden in my new world order.

    I love Main Street. Wall Street has to die.


    The problem is, when we tried letting workers unions serve as the financiers, all we got out of the deal were some crappy Vegas casinos.

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