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  • #3931
    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Edit: And holy hell. One of the dissenting justices is the son of the governor (one of the named defendants). Unreal.
    If I'm not mistaken, the DeWines are a ubiquitous OH political family and an offshoot of the Tafts. It's like being a "Lee" in Virginia in the 19th century.
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    • #3932
      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      The OH Supreme Court issued opinions on the redistricting map. Pretty harsh rebuke of the GOP by the Republican justices.

      There are a lot of really... interesting... notes in it. Like these:



      This was particularly bizarre:


      The dissent responded with:


      So, the majority said "Ohio SC has never issued a joint dissent." The dissent replies with "UH DID YOU SEE THE SCOTUS DID THIS YESTERDAY?!"
      HUH?


      The whole thing reads like a screamfest.

      Edit: And holy hell. One of the dissenting justices is the son of the governor (one of the named defendants). Unreal.
      Why is it that once law grads get hired as clerks they start using stilted and outdated language like "herein," aforesaid," etc? And why would their bosses not edit them out?

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      • #3933
        Cause it makes them sound smaht.
        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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        • #3934
          Originally posted by rufus View Post
          Cause it makes them sound smaht.
          Maybe they think it makes them sound smart, but I'm not so sure of that. Most law-trained people I know understand that it's babble, and I'm quite sure non-law-trained people think it's pretentious crap.

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          • #3935
            My guess is it's because they carry legal meaning. The lawyers at my company made us clean up the language in our standards with more clear and specific wording. Shall/must/etc was the big one.
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            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
            Originally posted by Kepler
            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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            • #3936
              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              My guess is it's because they carry legal meaning. The lawyers at my company made us clean up the language in our standards with more clear and specific wording. Shall/must/etc was the big one.
              Shall vs will is incredibly important in Contracts.
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              • #3937
                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                My guess is it's because they carry legal meaning. The lawyers at my company made us clean up the language in our standards with more clear and specific wording. Shall/must/etc was the big one.
                That's the point, though. Words like hereinafter and aforesaid do not carry specific legal meaning. They are usually just signs of lazy writing, IMO. Keep in mind I"m talking about judicial opinions and briefs. Contracts are different and are most often just forms modified to fit a specific situation, though some are very sophisticated.

                Kep, "will" is usually considered a word to avoid in written agreements, at least as it pertains to a duty to perform. The choice is most often between shall and may.
                Last edited by burd; 01-14-2022, 06:31 PM.

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                • #3938
                  Ah yeah, I was thinking from a contract POV. I'm dumb.
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                  Originally posted by SanTropez
                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                  I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                  Originally posted by Kepler
                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                  • #3939
                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                    Ah yeah, I was thinking from a contract POV. I'm dumb.
                    You are most definitely not dumb, and you make a good point as to that kind of legal writing.

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                    • #3940
                      Originally posted by burd View Post

                      You are most definitely not dumb, and you make a good point as to that kind of legal writing.
                      My wife tells me the same thing when I say that. :-P


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                      Originally posted by SanTropez
                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #3941
                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                        My wife tells me the same thing when I say that. :-P

                        The difference is I'm serious.

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                        • #3942
                          "I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb ..."

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                          • #3943
                            Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                            "I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb ..."
                            The understated genius of Fredo!
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                            • #3944
                              Duluth, baby.
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                              • #3945
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Duluth, baby.
                                That’s not just a Duluth thing. We did this sort of thing when I was in high school. Lift tickets are expensive.
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