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  • #256
    Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The GOP should put this in their platform.
    Looks like Palin's district, so no surprise. Just another example of "It can happen here." Still, how in Parise's name to you pull any of those books off the shelf. Were people in attendance (if any) incredulous? Even one person? Was there anger? Did parents threaten to home school their kids? Had any of the "yes" votes even read any of them? Did the two "no" votes resign?

    I know the answer to all those is "of course not," but I've lived in some very rural, flyover places, and there are always readers and thinkers in a community, and they often have kids. School board meetings are usually recorded and radio broadcast. It would be painful, but I'd like to hear that discussion, short as it probably was.

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    • #257
      Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

      Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
      Meh, haven't read a single one of those...
      That says nothing about the books and something about well you know.

      In all seriousness at least read Catch-22 and Gatsby. Without those you are a f-cking illiterate.

      Invisible Man is a tough read, I imagine twice so for Smugly Ignorant Midwestern Whitebread, but it's rewarding and in its own way funnier (and darker) than Heller.
      Last edited by Kepler; 04-23-2020, 08:46 PM.
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      • #258
        Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

        Originally posted by burd View Post
        Looks like Palin's district, so no surprise. Just another example of "It can happen here." Still, how in Parise's name to you pull any of those books off the shelf. Were people in attendance (if any) incredulous? Even one person? Was there anger? Did parents threaten to home school their kids? Had any of the "yes" votes even read any of them? Did the two "no" votes resign?

        I know the answer to all those is "of course not," but I've lived in some very rural, flyover places, and there are always readers and thinkers in a community, and they often have kids. School board meetings are usually recorded and radio broadcast. It would be painful, but I'd like to hear that discussion, short as it probably was.
        The smart kids always find a way. The first great challenge for smart kids is navigating through a world of mostly stupid people. Early on it's the stupid kids, but it becomes obvious quickly that most adults are pretty dumb too.

        A little oppression is good for the soul. Gives you some anger and some spine, and those will be handy later in life.
        Last edited by Kepler; 04-23-2020, 08:43 PM.
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        • #259
          Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post

          A little oppression is good for the soul. Gives you some anger and some spine, and those will be handy later in life.
          In that case, I'm ****ed and my spine is made of steel.
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          • #260
            Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

            Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
            In that case, I'm ****ed and my spine is made of steel.
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            • #261
              Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
              Never change Wasilla, never change...
              This is right when the kids go to the city/county library’s site to checkout/download copies of these books
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              • #262
                Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                Gatsby sucked arse.
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                • #263
                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  That says nothing about the books and something about well you know.

                  In all seriousness at least read Catch-22 and Gatsby. Without those you are a f-cking illiterate.
                  It's more that I only took one english lit class in High School.

                  More to the point, banning books is stupid.
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                  • #264
                    Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                    Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                    It's more that I only took one english lit class in High School.

                    More to the point, banning books is stupid.
                    Banning books is really stupid.

                    I only took one Lit class in HS also, and it got me into Shakespeare and Greek mythology. That part was awesome. Did have to read some duds, though.
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                    • #265
                      Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                      Remember when some schools banned The Egypt Game because of the attack near the end? Or because it supposedly promoted paganism?

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                      • #266
                        Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                        Not books, but I remember The Cure's song "Killing An Arab" was harshly criticized, and it was from a book ending. It was not a call for violence on Arabs.

                        People are stupid.
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                        • #267
                          Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                          Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                          Not books, but I remember The Cure's song "Killing An Arab" was harshly criticized, and it was from a book ending. It was not a call for violence on Arabs.

                          People are stupid.
                          The book is The Stranger, by Albert Camus. Ironically, he was always a speaker for the cause of Algerian Muslims (who I'm pretty sure are Berbers, not Arabs).

                          But most people are stupid. It doesn't help that they are also proud of their ignorance. They think it's "authentic." That's how you get Reagan, Dubya, and Dump.

                          We molded these imbeciles to hate book learnin' because they wouldn't need it in the fields and factories and mines and barracks and it would only give them ideas -- alcohol in the blood surrogate for the Epsilon minuses -- but it backfired because a dummy's vote counts just the same as a smarty, and there are way more of them.

                          Turns out Hamilton was right. Suffrage is too broad.
                          Last edited by Kepler; 04-23-2020, 11:38 PM.
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                          • #268
                            Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                            Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                            It's more that I only took one english lit class in High School.
                            And it's never occurred to you that you can read books all on your own?

                            Jesus f-ck, if reading is what you people mean by elitist then save me from the common man. It's like watching pigs at the trough.
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                            • #269
                              Re: The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              And it's never occurred to you that you can read books all on your own?

                              Jesus f-ck, if reading is what you people mean by elitist then save me from the common man. It's like watching pigs at the trough.
                              I prefer non-fiction. I've read books on other religions, as a past-time. My passion is organized crime, pop-culture (the game console wars were especially intriguing to me), some history, but overall? If it's fiction? Nah. I'll save that for the movies. That's my preferred form for the fiction genre.
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                              • #270
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                And it's never occurred to you that you can read books all on your own?

                                Jesus f-ck, if reading is what you people mean by elitist then save me from the common man. It's like watching pigs at the trough.
                                Or maybe people don't enjoy that stuff so they read other books. You couldn't pay me to read a book by Hemingway or attempt to read Catcher in the Rye again but that doesn't make me uneducated or "common" it means I read stuff that is enjoyable not petulant, misogynistic, self indulgent crap

                                You are an elitist because you think people who don't like what you like or choose a path you didn't want to take makes them beneath you. Oh and because you like to pretend your Suny-Hipster diploma matters to anyone.

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