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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
    An aside to Kep's rant in the soccer thread- while you hate American athletes who have things given to them (and I've already asked about countries like China, who make it look like an athlete factory)... what about the countries and sports that *require* massive privilege just to compete- like equestrian and Germany? At least for the US teams you rail about- some of those BB players did come from nothing. Can't do that when a horse is required.
    Hating one thing does not mean you love everything else. c.f. the National League East.

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  • Russell Jaslow
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
    An aside to Kep's rant in the soccer thread- while you hate American athletes who have things given to them (and I've already asked about countries like China, who make it look like an athlete factory)... what about the countries and sports that *require* massive privilege just to compete- like equestrian and Germany? At least for the US teams you rail about- some of those BB players did come from nothing. Can't do that when a horse is required.
    And let's not forget, the whole reason for the original amateur only in the Olympics was a British concept (Pierre de Courbertin didn't give a darn), because the British believed only the aristocrats should take the luxury of competing in sports and how dare they have to compete against the "unwashed." (The Ancient Greek Olympic athletes were definitely pros.)

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  • Russell Jaslow
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

    That would require a massive change in how sport is done in other countries. I think we are the only ones who give scholarships for sport to universities. Heck, even US territories don't do that (at least I know Puerto Rico's universities don't).

    But if it means Nigeria gets it's very first men's gymnast in the Olympics, it's not the worst thing in the world.
    It's not just the universities that help train foreign athletes. It's also the sports academies. Heck, at one time (maybe still the case) most of the Russian figure skaters were training in the U.S. So, to Kep, we do spread our weath...

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  • MichVandal
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    An aside to Kep's rant in the soccer thread- while you hate American athletes who have things given to them (and I've already asked about countries like China, who make it look like an athlete factory)... what about the countries and sports that *require* massive privilege just to compete- like equestrian and Germany? At least for the US teams you rail about- some of those BB players did come from nothing. Can't do that when a horse is required.

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  • MichVandal
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    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
    And that probably doesn't count the ones under 18 who will compete in the NCAA someday.

    If only other countries would follow our example and make their money-sport athletes go through 4 "shamateur" years (heh - thought I just made that term up, but it's already in my spell check) where the collegiate sports' ruling body could exploit them for $$$ under the guise of funding other sports....
    That would require a massive change in how sport is done in other countries. I think we are the only ones who give scholarships for sport to universities. Heck, even US territories don't do that (at least I know Puerto Rico's universities don't).

    But if it means Nigeria gets it's very first men's gymnast in the Olympics, it's not the worst thing in the world.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
    So seeing the daily results of my university- made me think how many olympians played in the NCAA....

    According to the NCAA, over 1,000 athletes were NCAA competitors- that's about 10% of the entire field. If I could download the file into Excel, it would be easy to see who they are all playing for. I do know that a UM Senior won a gold for Canada.
    And that probably doesn't count the ones under 18 who will compete in the NCAA someday.

    If only other countries would follow our example and make their money-sport athletes go through 4 "shamateur" years (heh - thought I just made that term up, but it's already in my spell check) where the collegiate sports' ruling body could exploit them for $$$ under the guise of funding other sports....

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  • MichVandal
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    So seeing the daily results of my university- made me think how many olympians played in the NCAA....

    According to the NCAA, over 1,000 athletes were NCAA competitors- that's about 10% of the entire field. If I could download the file into Excel, it would be easy to see who they are all playing for. I do know that a UM Senior won a gold for Canada.

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  • French Rage
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    LOL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...types-apology/

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  • MichVandal
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    So far, many of the fluff pieces that NBC has spend money and airtime on have been bust- all up the pump up has not lead to anything. And now, arguably, the top star on the entire team drops out. Just asking questions- how long can NBC hold out before they start throwing athletes under the bus? One can even argue that Naomi Osaka's loss will be a hit to the TV ratings.

    If not for a bunch of people having the Olympics on in the background (thanks to us working from home)- NBC is sucking pretty bad.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    The scene in the gym was epic.
    That was actually the railroad depot.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    Well, yeah, there is that, too. Which is why I don't think judged sports should be in the Olympics. But that's a whole other topic for another day...
    I have no problem with subjective sports being in the Olympics, but the first thing we ought to do is take the nations out of the Olympics. I don't care where you were born or which Evil Corp: Public Sector Edition paid for your animal training.

    Also: full nudity.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
    Being from Minnesota I'm a big Suni Lee (bandwagon) fan, but even I was surprised at Jade's score on the beam.
    That was a complete farce. I know it's all a scam but for god's sake at least pretend.

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  • state of hockey
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    Being from Minnesota I'm a big Suni Lee (bandwagon) fan, but even I was surprised at Jade's score on the beam.

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  • Russell Jaslow
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The "judgment sports" are what if a Central American legal system judged athletics. It's a melange of networking, bias, and good old fashioned corruption.
    Well, yeah, there is that, too. Which is why I don't think judged sports should be in the Olympics. But that's a whole other topic for another day...
    Last edited by Russell Jaslow; 07-27-2021, 11:18 AM.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    My cousin is big into gymnastics and she attended that event in Atlanta.

    When she got home, she watched the "coverage" of what she saw. She told me she was stunned on how it was covered. What was "depicted" on TV, mainly the sequence of events, was NOT what she saw in person. So, yeah, I can believe the "true" story has never really been told. We essentially watched an edited reality show.
    Same for skating. When I lived in MA I knew people close to the high levels of skating and they said the presentation is ridiculous. This of course aside from the fact that the results are decided before the competition begins.

    The "judgment sports" are what if a Central American legal system judged athletics. It's a melange of networking, bias, and good old fashioned corruption.

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